Maura Murray

jwb wrote:

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Remember they had her on video buying what was in her car. I am sure forensics also brushed for fingerprints and more.
You maybe on to something Beagle but I haven't seen anything pointing to that possibilty yet, We will see as more info unravels.

LE says they have a reciept for alcohol that they found in Mauras car. no family has ever seen a reciept from her vehicle. it has never been stated as to what date this alcohol was purchased either. could the reciept be Mauras maybe maybe not. could it be a friend of hers maybe maybe not.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>LE says they have a reciept for alcohol that they found in Mauras car. no family has ever seen a reciept from her vehicle. it has never been stated as to what date this alcohol was purchased either. could the reciept be Mauras maybe maybe not. could it be a friend of hers maybe maybe not.

So Citi, now you speak for all of Maura's family? so you have direct contact with them on all the facts that you are posing? Each and every one of them? I've noticed your comments on a ocuple of occasions as saying no one from the family has seen this or that.....are you sure you're authorized to speak for all of them? If you are, can we ask you to ask them some questions since they are so giving of information to you?

You people are f-ing pathetic, seriously you sicken me. Get a life.

Everyone knows maura is living in Ontario with a 'hunky' boy, barefoot and pregnant, stealing credit cards, buying pizza and cheap boxes o' wine watching porn videos of midgets and amputees.

Duh

findmaura wrote:

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Did anyone bother with forensics?It wasnt handled like a crime scene.

I had read that later on after the car was towed that forensics were done. I can't remember how long the car had been sitting . Not sure if it was at Lavois or troop F.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>what about the people that have given positive feedback about your community. me being one. why have you never put any of this in your postings and only focous on the negative things that posters have said?

You made a public showing here and told how wonderful and helpful all the people in this area were but yet you enabled the bashing of these very people for years by not standing up and telling the basher it was WRONG! You outright refused to even say she was wrong on Topix and said it would be attacking. I even said that telling someone they were wrong wasn't attacking them but still you remained silent enabling the bashing. Pretty funny don't you think since years of attacking were done to the NH people and no one said that attacking was wrong then.
Do you think the despicable things she and a few others said for years will ever be forgotten? Do you have any idea whatsoever the hurt and harm she caused? And you refuse to stand up and tell her she's wrong. Pfffffft
We've been here, done this before. It seems silly to keep repeating it. I'm going to copy it so the next time you ask about it I can save a lot of keyboard work and just hit "paste".

can anyone show me one of these shack posts? Are they all erased from a previous forum?

findmaura wrote:

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Did anyone bother with forensics?It wasnt handled like a crime scene.

no it was not handled like a crime scene because LE belived she was a run away and wanted to go missing in the early days that Maura disappeared. the vehicle was towed and the tow driver did what he was instructed to do by LE. I believe it was in april of 04 that a local news paper up there took a photo of Mauras car and published this photo in there news paper.the drivers door was open and this photo was in there local newspaper.I dont know at what point but after this the vehicle was taken to the state police barracks. if there was ever any evidence in her vehicle I would have to consider it tainted with no wrong doing of the guy who towed it. the public had access to this vehicle before state police took custody of it.

findmaura wrote:

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Did anyone bother with forensics?It wasnt handled like a crime scene.

No it wasn't Maura left a note on her car: "be back in a few just sobering up" Everyone thought she'd be back

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>no it was not handled like a crime scene because LE belived she was a run away and wanted to go missing in the early days that Maura disappeared. the vehicle was towed and the tow driver did what he was instructed to do by LE. I believe it was in april of 04 that a local news paper up there took a photo of Mauras car and published this photo in there news paper.the drivers door was open and this photo was in there local newspaper.I dont know at what point but after this the vehicle was taken to the state police barracks. if there was ever any evidence in her vehicle I would have to consider it tainted with no wrong doing of the guy who towed it. the public had access to this vehicle before state police took custody of it.

interesting about the photo. I don't think I have seen the photo with the door open.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>no it was not handled like a crime scene because LE belived she was a run away and wanted to go missing in the early days that Maura disappeared. the vehicle was towed and the tow driver did what he was instructed to do by LE. I believe it was in april of 04 that a local news paper up there took a photo of Mauras car and published this photo in there news paper.the drivers door was open and this photo was in there local newspaper.I dont know at what point but after this the vehicle was taken to the state police barracks. if there was ever any evidence in her vehicle I would have to consider it tainted with no wrong doing of the guy who towed it. the public had access to this vehicle before state police took custody of it.

so citigirl, are you saying that forensics were never done at a later period after the car was towed? I could be mistaken but I was pretty sure that I had read that.

jwb wrote:

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I had read that later on after the car was towed that forensics were done. I can't remember how long the car had been sitting . Not sure if it was at Lavois or troop F.

A search was conducted on May 8, 2004 5 miles from accident site Weathered Barn.

June 8, 2004 Press release.

Two weeks later, a N.H. State Police Trooper turned up on the doorstep of Maura's sister Kathleen's home in Hanover, Mass. The trooper requested that all items found in Maura's car be returned. Maura's belongings had been given to the Murray family within two weeks of the accident.

Police also confiscated the hard drive of Maura's computer, which had been in her dorm room and took custody of Maura's car, which had been sitting unlocked at a North Haverhill, N.H. garage since the accident. Police explained that a major crimes unit of the State Police was stepping into the case and wanted to conduct forensic tests of Maura's car and personal belongings.

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text>So Citi, now you speak for all of Maura's family? so you have direct contact with them on all the facts that you are posing? Each and every one of them? I've noticed your comments on a ocuple of occasions as saying no one from the family has seen this or that.....are you sure you're authorized to speak for all of them? If you are, can we ask you to ask them some questions since they are so giving of information to you?

a good point. citigirl is taking extreme liberty to be a spokeswoman in the absence of firecat, who once assumed that role. i don't believe citi is a legitimately appointed spokeswoman, however.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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You made a public showing here and told how wonderful and helpful all the people in this area were but yet you enabled the bashing of these very people for years by not standing up and telling the basher it was WRONG! You outright refused to even say she was wrong on Topix and said it would be attacking. I even said that telling someone they were wrong wasn't attacking them but still you remained silent enabling the bashing. Pretty funny don't you think since years of attacking were done to the NH people and no one said that attacking was wrong then.
Do you think the despicable things she and a few others said for years will ever be forgotten? Do you have any idea whatsoever the hurt and harm she caused? And you refuse to stand up and tell her she's wrong. Pfffffft
We've been here, done this before. It seems silly to keep repeating it. I'm going to copy it so the next time you ask about it I can save a lot of keyboard work and just hit "paste".

I didnt enable anything. It was you whom said you sat and did nothing when the people from NH on the MM forum bashed the local people. so dont accuse me of inabling anything when infact said you did nothing.I did post on the MM forum as well as here on topix with the positive experiences that I have encountered with the people from NH. I did not refuse anything. what you wanted me to do was to go after posters you disagreed with. not saying I agree with everything that has been said but if you disagree with what a poster has said it is up to you to speak up. I should not be held responsible for what other posters say. I can only be held accountable for what I say. I have said good things about the people in your community but yet you come after me for things other people have said. maybe you are better off to take it up with those whom have made the statements they have said that you dont like. I can only speak for myself and not others. I can only imagine the hurt you feel. but when something negative is put out there why not throw out something positive that has been said about your community?

Snowy wrote:

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a good point. citigirl is taking extreme liberty to be a spokeswoman in the absence of firecat, who once assumed that role. i don't believe citi is a legitimately appointed spokeswoman, however.

for one Snowy I dont know who firecat is. Iam not a spokes person for anyone just stating what I know.

Tom wrote:

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Excellent Post I agree the fact that the father never told anyone about this that might have helped in the search. What else is he holding back and why not tell anyone if you really want your daughter found. Makes me wonder what else he knows.

Tom,
Maura is one of those individuals above average in intelligence....someone who performs above average in several areas. These facts alone cause a lot of envy out there in the land of many who do not excel. Envy? This is an understatement... It causes some individuals to harbor pure resentment and hatred. Yes. Hatred. So people do what they do best....drag MM and her family through the mud. Also, it's a lot easier than actually searching for Maura. Had people listened to Mr. "M" in the first place, RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING when he told them he believed some "scumbag" had abducted his daughter, the case might not be where it continues to idle today. All of these young women have not simply ran off to commit suicide. True, some young people do run off and this makes them more vulnerable, placing them in high risk situations. Many of them do die, they're murdered as a result of these situations. Some do commit suicide but they often do not run off to do this. Not all young women who are missing have run away. Many of them are abducted. I have to agree with Maura's father. I believe a "scumbag" abducted his daughter (as well as several other women). In my opinion, there are a few people (more likely several people) who have a fairly good idea as to the identity of this "scumbag" who abducted Maura that February evening. These individuals are fearful of coming forth with information.

jwb wrote:

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so citigirl, are you saying that forensics were never done at a later period after the car was towed? I could be mistaken but I was pretty sure that I had read that.

honestly JWB I have no idea about when or if forensics was ever done on Mauras vehicle.only stating what I know.

aftermath wrote:

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Tom,
Maura is one of those individuals above average in intelligence....someone who performs above average in several areas. These facts alone cause a lot of envy out there in the land of many who do not excel. Envy? This is an understatement... It causes some individuals to harbor pure resentment and hatred. Yes. Hatred. So people do what they do best....drag MM and her family through the mud. Also, it's a lot easier than actually searching for Maura. Had people listened to Mr. "M" in the first place, RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING when he told them he believed some "scumbag" had abducted his daughter, the case might not be where it continues to idle today. All of these young women have not simply ran off to commit suicide. True, some young people do run off and this makes them more vulnerable, placing them in high risk situations. Many of them do die, they're murdered as a result of these situations. Some do commit suicide but they often do not run off to do this. Not all young women who are missing have run away. Many of them are abducted. I have to agree with Maura's father. I believe a "scumbag" abducted his daughter (as well as several other women). In my opinion, there are a few people (more likely several people) who have a fairly good idea as to the identity of this "scumbag" who abducted Maura that February evening. These individuals are fearful of coming forth with information.

You think she was abducted? FYI Maura's father originally thought Maura ran away thats a fact. He was on camera saying " Come home anything you did we can work out" They also ran an ad in the local paper pleading with her to come home. I think MAura's poor personal behaivor and her disappearance are too coincidental. Too coicidental for a local to scoop her up.

jwb wrote:

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I had read that later on after the car was towed that forensics were done. I can't remember how long the car had been sitting . Not sure if it was at Lavoies or troop F.

the car was towed to Lavoies and then months later it went to F troop.the public had access to this vehicle before it went to F troop.

aftermath wrote:

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Tom,
Maura is one of those individuals above average in intelligence....someone who performs above average in several areas. These facts alone cause a lot of envy out there in the land of many who do not excel. Envy? This is an understatement... It causes some individuals to harbor pure resentment and hatred. Yes. Hatred. So people do what they do best....drag MM and her family through the mud. Also, it's a lot easier than actually searching for Maura. Had people listened to Mr. "M" in the first place, RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING when he told them he believed some "scumbag" had abducted his daughter, the case might not be where it continues to idle today. All of these young women have not simply ran off to commit suicide. True, some young people do run off and this makes them more vulnerable, placing them in high risk situations. Many of them do die, they're murdered as a result of these situations. Some do commit suicide but they often do not run off to do this. Not all young women who are missing have run away. Many of them are abducted. I have to agree with Maura's father. I believe a "scumbag" abducted his daughter (as well as several other women). In my opinion, there are a few people (more likely several people) who have a fairly good idea as to the identity of this "scumbag" who abducted Maura that February evening. These individuals are fearful of coming forth with information.

Do you KNOW these people that have the fairly good idea?Have you confirmed with these people that they are fearful?You posted these same statements recently.why dont you contact someone?Or are you just trying to draw everyone away from a recent truth?

The majority of the time, you guys write intelligent, thought-provoking posts that educate those of us reading...inform about the area....clarify certain aspects....I really enjoy checking out the posts during that time. I don't know who is friends with whom, which poster is a duck or a lion or an albatross....and I don't give a flying f*ck. I understand that there's a lot of history between you all long-time posters...but what mystifies me is the same person writing an eloquent opinion post one moment,..resorts to high-school-esque snotty comments a moment later.

I like WTF Bill, snowy, mason/Fred from back in the day...whitewash and whiston and Wowzer have all had posts that opened up different points of view. Beagle as well, and lookinforamoose and whatever happened to Paris? Citigirl and Hannah B also and jab Half those people may hate each other for Ll I know....or all I care. I wish the bullshit could be kept to a minimum, truly. I know there are antagonistic posts but can't ya shrug it off, or at least not dwell on it for pages? You guys have so much insight to offer,

And, respectfully, Tom, I like your posts here and at the blog....you are funny. But the antagonism needs to end and I wish you'd be a help in that direction, rather than a hinder.

Now, you all can write nasty replies or dismiss me as an out-of-towner who knows nothing.....but, I like discussing this case and I'd like to see a resolution. Isn't that enough to be present here? As for being far removed geographically...the posts on here have schooled me on animals, the woods, mountains, etc. I can't wait to one day head out East, not to visit an accident site or stalk down a neighbor...but to check out this beautiful area that you all have described for years. Hell, I've never seen a mountain, nor has much of a desire, before reading some of the outdoorsy
Posts, here.

I'm not trying to be bossy. I'm trying to maybe hallt the drama for a page or two....because I actually care bout what ya have to say.