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So they should pick one random car in NH that is left on the side of the road with out of state plates and the FBI start there?
Tom,
Someone needs to begin somewhere. Possibly a new perspective, a different protocol, method, procedure, alternative resources might (note I state "might") bring about different results or possibly introduce new leads to follow. The common denominator in these cases appears to be little if any evidence. Without a trace is the motto, so it seems.

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<quoted text>There is a chance that she was planning to kill herself at the destination.
That is a possibility. So what would she do if that plan was interrupted by the car accident? Would she be more likely or less likely to proceed with the suicide, just in another way?

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Snowy,
Try stuffing the following into your miniscule echo chamber which apparently reverberates unendingly. You, for whatever reason, dislike MM and her family. Your bias shows.
it matters not whether i like them or not; my reasonable comments aren't precipitated by the emotion that drives yours; i have no dog in this race. do you?
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Snowy,
For once I agree with you. I believe the FBI offer to take the case was rejected, at least this is my understanding of what occurred based on information made public. FBI involvement was limited to a few interviews in Amherst. So what does your "really?" and correcting you if you're wrong have to do with planting garlic in a straight row? Please clarify what you are attempting to articulate in that darling little echo chamber of yours.
sweetie, are you parroting from the rumor mill, or is the info you're providing verified?
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The last three posts were not from me. same location showing which is odd.
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Tom,
Someone needs to begin somewhere. Possibly a new perspective, a different protocol, method, procedure, alternative resources might (note I state "might") bring about different results or possibly introduce new leads to follow. The common denominator in these cases appears to be little if any evidence. Without a trace is the motto, so it seems.
Perhaps the FBI would be better off starting in MA first? I think we should get the whole story on the girl and her family that may tell us more about her disapearance.
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This is off Maura Murray missing:
The FBI has joined in the search for missing college student Maura Murray, but without a single lead
in the nearly two-week old case, New Hampshire authorities said the additional investigators might
not make a difference. Murray, a 21-year-old Hanson native and nursing student at the University of
Massachusetts at Amherst, vanished the night of Feb. 9 after crashing her car into a snowbank on a
rural road in Woodsville, N.H.
This is from Maura Murray Disppearance:
Although missing person cases are normally handled by local and state police, the FBI joined the investigation ten days after she disappeared.[19] The FBI interviewed some of Maura's friends and family from Massachusetts,[20][21] and the Haverhill police chief disclosed that the search for Maura was now nationwide.[22] Ten days after her disappearance, New Hampshire Fish and Game conducted a second ground and air search, using a heat-seeking helicopter, sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs.
Tom,
Thanks for helping out. THIS is exactly what I mean: "the FBI joined the investigation ten days after she disappeared.[19]" Ten days had passed. By the time the FBI was allowed to join the investigation if any evidence had existed, it had been compromised. Why? First, consider that time that had passed. Secondly, that very same evening of Feb 9, the Saturn had been hauled off to a local garage (as opposed to having been impounded). Why? Because this is the way abandoned vehicles are routinely routed from the scene. Everyone that evening, the following day and Wednesday walked all over the area making it impossible to determine footprints at the scene other than Maura's. The car could have been left at the scene, taped off and evidence, if any, might have been collected within a short period of time. Interviews of ALL residents in the area could have been made within a short period of time following the accident. I realize it would be impossible to treat every abandoned vehicle in this way, but it might prove helpful if at least one abandoned vehicle/disappearance would be treated in this manner. Target a case similar to MM's where the young woman is known to have been at the accident scene. Treating one case in this way would hurt nothing and would potentially give investigators something to work with. It seems unfair to ask them to "find her" when evidence if any might have been overlooked.
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Perhaps the FBI would be better off starting in MA first? I think we should get the whole story on the girl and her family that may tell us more about her disapearance.
my point all along. makes sense.
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Tom,
I wish to clarify that the officer at the scene followed protocol. He did what is expected when an abandoned vehicle is identified. In using one abandoned vehicle as a sort of "pilot" project, adjustment and approval in terms of protocol in this one instance would be necessary. It seems that in many of these abandoned vehicle cases,there is often regrets as to what might have been done differently initially that would have helped LE later in their investigation. I know every abandoned vehicle cannot be investigated by the FBI!...but possibly one?
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my point all along. makes sense.
my understanding was the FBI did investigate in Mass. Is that not correct?
Tom

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Tom,
I wish to clarify that the officer at the scene followed protocol. He did what is expected when an abandoned vehicle is identified. In using one abandoned vehicle as a sort of "pilot" project, adjustment and approval in terms of protocol in this one instance would be necessary. It seems that in many of these abandoned vehicle cases,there is often regrets as to what might have been done differently initially that would have helped LE later in their investigation. I know every abandoned vehicle cannot be investigated by the FBI!...but possibly one?
And I think we know know what case they should have been looking at. Look if it was my daughter I would want them using everything as well even the bubble but it doesn't work that way. We should be more focused on what the FBI found out in their interviews.
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Perhaps the FBI would be better off starting in MA first? I think we should get the whole story on the girl and her family that may tell us more about her disapearance.

Tom,
In my opinion, it seems MA was just a place lodged in a continuation of sorts. NYS, in particular Highland Falls, NY would have been an interesting place to start. It may have started before Highland Falls, but this is not totally clear. It depends if the focus is on one's personal life or in identification of the abductor. Personal? Begin in Highland Falls? I cannot be positive, but there is a strong possibility that the driver of the "red truck" may have at one time resided in Highland Falls and later moved to MA (believe 2003?). My personal belief is that the driver of the red truck had nothing to do with Maura's disappearance. I'm sure that he was completely baffled by her disappearance as many were and continue to be. If the driver of the red truck had hurt her in anyway, he would not have loitered in the area as he did. He would have been out of there fast. He probably was attempting to determine what had happened to her in such a short period of time. It would seem that he found himself in a catch 22 situation.
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my understanding was the FBI did investigate in Mass. Is that not correct?
What kind of phone are you on that is so 10 minutes ago
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Snowy wrote:
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it matters not whether i like them or not; my reasonable comments aren't precipitated by the emotion that drives yours; i have no dog in this race. do you?
Snowy,
You actually believe you're involved in some kind of race? Maybe you need to start with a nice little conversation with your family physician and he may have some "choices" and/or possible "options" for you... LOL Maybe you need to read some of your posts and process their content. Just sayin'
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What kind of phone are you on that is so 10 minutes ago
??? what are you asking me
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And I think we know know what case they should have been looking at. Look if it was my daughter I would want them using everything as well even the bubble but it doesn't work that way. We should be more focused on what the FBI found out in their interviews.
Tom,
It is my understanding that the interviews were restricted to a few friends in the Amherst area. In my opinions, MM's peers, her friends have no idea as to what happened to MM. They would have said something by now as they were her friends. The bushes that need beating are in NH......

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Tom,
Thanks for helping out. THIS is exactly what I mean: "the FBI joined the investigation ten days after she disappeared.[19]" Ten days had passed. By the time the FBI was allowed to join the investigation if any evidence had existed, it had been compromised. Why? First, consider that time that had passed. Secondly, that very same evening of Feb 9, the Saturn had been hauled off to a local garage (as opposed to having been impounded). Why? Because this is the way abandoned vehicles are routinely routed from the scene. Everyone that evening, the following day and Wednesday walked all over the area making it impossible to determine footprints at the scene other than Maura's. The car could have been left at the scene, taped off and evidence, if any, might have been collected within a short period of time. Interviews of ALL residents in the area could have been made within a short period of time following the accident. I realize it would be impossible to treat every abandoned vehicle in this way, but it might prove helpful if at least one abandoned vehicle/disappearance would be treated in this manner. Target a case similar to MM's where the young woman is known to have been at the accident scene. Treating one case in this way would hurt nothing and would potentially give investigators something to work with. It seems unfair to ask them to "find her" when evidence if any might have been overlooked.
Your a real hoot
I can't stop laughing.
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??? what are you asking me
It was a joke because I just posted that the FBI was involved about five minutes before you wrote that. I was making a joke like they do in the cell phone commercials about having a slow Internet download and people are getting the information slower
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Snowy,
You actually believe you're involved in some kind of race? Maybe you need to start with a nice little conversation with your family physician and he may have some "choices" and/or possible "options" for you... LOL Maybe you need to read some of your posts and process their content. Just sayin'
You're kidding right dog in the race is a metaphor
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Tom wrote:
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It was a joke because I just posted that the FBI was involved about five minutes before you wrote that. I was making a joke like they do in the cell phone commercials about having a slow Internet download and people are getting the information slower
I just didn't get it sorry. I'll laugh now :)

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