Maura Murray

TeeJay wrote:

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I have no idea where the abduction led (and obviously, I can't be certain that it occurred in the first place). After following this case for quite some time, I tend to think that she was picked up by a local and then something horrible happened to her (maybe in a certain A-frame house where cadaver dogs went bonkers, but where DNA evidence was inconclusive).
I definitely think that law enforcement knows WAY more than we do, and that they think it's a homicide, and that they have a clear idea of who did it -- but they don't yet have enough evidence to press charges.

most of us have been following for some time.
i would only dispute that you believe she was picked up by a "local". IF she accepted a ride, or was abducted, it wouldn't necessarily have been a "local". there is no way for you to know that; it could have been anyone passing through, though doubtful on both counts, imo.
yes, i trust LE must have some solid info., but they also require some solid evidence.

Frostman wrote:

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Well, apparently we didn't "all" know this. Some believe there are no coincidences in life and that we're all somehow related.
Oh pleeease, say it ain't so!

Gawd. spare me.

Snowy wrote:

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i don't think most people care to know more than would be helpful. oftentimes, families immediately reveal to the public a history of depression or life circumstances that might relate to a disappearance.
how much is too much or too little is their call.
the most suspicious aspect of this mystery, imo, was concealing what eventually did become public knowledge. more facts and fewer myths could have been established.
in the end, nothing matters more than one good clue.

I don't feel releasing personal information such as the credit card theft to the general public would have changed anything in the investigation.Le I am sure was already aware of this from when they spoke with the Umass and Amherst Police> I understand that those of us on the forum are interested in these facts in order for us to try and understand and piece things together.

We learned other things such as Mauras Secret suitor etc.. and that is interesting for us to chew on but again LE spoke with not only family but with friends so I am sure they were aware.

In the end I think Fred was right when he said something to the effect that she was missing and digging into her personal life in public was not going to change the fact that she was missing.

On the Flip side,If Fred withheld information from Le I believe that was a mistake but I can understand as a Dad that I wouldn't want to list my daughters shortcomings to anyone.I don't know Fred and I am only speaking as a dad. I got a hug again from my daughter today because I gave her money for gas and Fred can't get that. We can't possibly know if he did or notlet personal information be known to LE because of the tight lips of LE and for good reason. I believe a similar theory as to what "TE Jay " stated earlier. Lets hope this can be resolved for the family's sake.

Snowy wrote:

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most of us have been following for some time.
i would only dispute that you believe she was picked up by a "local". IF she accepted a ride, or was abducted, it wouldn't necessarily have been a "local". there is no way for you to know that; it could have been anyone passing through, though doubtful on both counts, imo.
yes, i trust LE must have some solid info., but they also require some solid evidence.

That is his theory and he is entitled to it.

Snowy wrote:

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in the end, nothing matters more than one good clue.

This is rather off topic, but I'm tired and feel like a ramble.

You know what this case reminds me of? That plane that crashed into the Andes in the 1940's, where the pilot's last word was STENDEC (in morse code). It took 50ish years for them to find that plane, which eventually emerged piecemeal when glacial ice thawed.

There were theories of alien abductions, hijacking, political conspiracy, you name it. It was the King's Messenger. It was the Palestinian. It was GOD CALLING THEM HOME.

Then there were the clueless idiots who didn't understand morse code, who spent years trying to decode what STENDEC stood for.

"I think STENDEC means "Severe Turbulence Encountered, Now Descending, Emergency Crash."

"Naaahh. I think it means "Stardust Tank Empty No Diesel, Expect Crash."

It turned out that the plane just crashed due to lack of knowledge about jet streams, and STENDEC was irrelevent (likely a morse code error).

I have a feeling the answer to our puzzle is much simpler than we're making it, and we just have to wait until our plane (Maura) emerges.

amy researches wrote:

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This is rather off topic, but I'm tired and feel like a ramble.
You know what this case reminds me of? That plane that crashed into the Andes in the 1940's, where the pilot's last word was STENDEC (in morse code). It took 50ish years for them to find that plane, which eventually emerged piecemeal when glacial ice thawed.
There were theories of alien abductions, hijacking, political conspiracy, you name it. It was the King's Messenger. It was the Palestinian. It was GOD CALLING THEM HOME.
Then there were the clueless idiots who didn't understand morse code, who spent years trying to decode what STENDEC stood for.
"I think STENDEC means "Severe Turbulence Encountered, Now Descending, Emergency Crash."
"Naaahh. I think it means "Stardust Tank Empty No Diesel, Expect Crash."
It turned out that the plane just crashed due to lack of knowledge about jet streams, and STENDEC was irrelevent (likely a morse code error).
I have a feeling the answer to our puzzle is much simpler than we're making it, and we just have to wait until our plane (Maura) emerges.

Agree Amy. I think there are some that want to make so much more of it than there really is.The Hadley crash is interesting to talk about but I am sure it has nothing to do with what happened at the WB curve although it was a chain of events.. Maura at the WB Maura not at the WB is just steering away from what happened. Keep it simple and focused Odds are it was her. I feel things are coming in focus as more info is released. We now know there are POI and that is for a reason. It had to be proven to a judge behind the scenes

previous post was JWB

JWB wrote:

previous post was JWB

This place really needs an EDIT button.

I think everyone is exhausted from all that has transpired over the last couple of weeks. I can't speak for everyone but I have searched my ass off. I am done looking at beagles mumbo jumbo as it is making my head hurt. It is like being stuck inside
one of those murder mystery dinner shows 24-7. I bet there has been more movement in the past 6 months than the prior 8 years however. Some say no new information but I disagree. There is much more info that we are learning. LE already has this info but it is new to us. I think the next few months will be off the charts. I will bid ado for a week as I bask in the sun drinking tropical beverages.

Salute Columbo talk to you in a week unless I can sneak on the computer while away but the wife will Kill me.

That is my ramble Amy

amy researches wrote:

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This place really needs an EDIT button.

we are human and make errors. I posted on something else and used
my dogs name cause I was bored and wanted to mix it up.typos or mistakes don't bother me at all. Bigger fish to fry!

JWB wrote:

I will bid ado for a week as I bask in the sun drinking tropical beverages.

Please have 5-7 drinks (per day) for me and know that I am completely envious.

amy researches wrote:

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Please have 5-7 drinks (per day) for me and know that I am completely envious.

5-7 ?? that's for breakfast. How is your winter Amy? Not bad here but it will be nice to see 80's. I can't wait to get my motorcycle out! I have a big touring Bike . I ll email you a pic.

JWB wrote:

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I have a big touring Bike. I'll email you a pic.

[insert inappropriate joke here]

:-)

amy researches wrote:

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[insert inappropriate joke here]
:-)

ha you dirty girl you. I knew I liked you off the bat and now I know. Mind in the gutter. yea that's it. so what if you don't remember Mannix. You can check it out on you tube. LOL I did today!

JWB wrote:

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ha you dirty girl you. I knew I liked you off the bat and now I know. Mind in the gutter. yea that's it. so what if you don't remember Mannix. You can check it out on you tube. LOL I did today!

Thank goodness I am gay or we would be in some serious trouble here. HAHAHA.

And now, back to your regularly scheduled program of Maura Murray.

Amy can you please change your Moniker and give everyone the finger? It would be fitting for this forum. Your smiling is way to nice.

Thanks
Patch

JWB wrote:

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be nice to see 80's..

78 here in VA today, its a great 67 outside right now :)

Oh no not everyone please retract!!! yikes

That was only to a select few(finger). I didn't mean to disrespect all. I am here for maura and I am working my tail off and support those that care about her and not deflecting and playing games. It has been a long exhausting couple weeks for all.

I went to college not far from Haverhill and I lived in the area for 12 years.
I can tell you for a fact that about 90-99% of the general public have never even heard of Maura Murray or know that she's missing.
My roomate tony was from woodsville and his family lived in either woodsville or haverhill for his entire life, except for when he was at school..& he never even heard of it. When I told him about this a couple yrs ago he was absolutely shocked, had no clue.
No one I went to school with ever heard of it.
This case is NOT common knowledge in nh, or amherst for that matter.
Coincidently when I moved out of nh I moved to Amherst bc my current girlfriend goes to umass. She never heard of it, nobody in Amherst ive ever asked heard of it.
In fact, not one person I've spoken to about this case ever heard of it. Nobody.

I know that everyone on all these different forums love to think that what they r doing is important and well known to the general public, but I can tell you that it definitely is not, not even close.

Do u guys really think the general public read all the crap written here??
I find it interesting & read it often over the years, but I literally don't know one other person who has EVER read any of these forums.

I can't see what damage a couple hundred people on forums theorizing about possible suspects can do. It's not like people are reading this shit.
I find these forums highly interesting & they coils be important. Having as much minds on the case could help, who knows..maybe somebody will say something sometime that will blow the case wide open, highly unlikely but def possible.

I just don't understand about these people getting all worked up about us theorizing about the sbd & the cw. While I don't think the sbd had anything to so with it it's pretty easy to c why people would've thought that. He had 3 distinctly different stories about what happened when he came across her crash, that's HIGHLY suspicious. How could that happen unless he was lying aboit something. I tend to think he saw a lot more than he said but was too scared to say it. I mean If he saw someone take maura she was obviously killed, so that would mean that this person could come back and harm him or his family at any time if he gave legit info to le. Think about that, if someone's gonna abduct & murder a girl what's stopping them from killing his family.
They would have know exactly who he was and where he lived.
What's the other explanation for his vastly different stories?
I know that when LE is interrogating people they make a pretty big deal out of it when there stories change. In fact they will bring in suspects for multiple interviews to look for differences in there story, that's a potential way to determine if someone is lying or not.
Same thing w the cw, his story changed. Different than the sbd but almost worse in it's own way, 2 months later he realizes he saw someone on the rd that night. I know his story about looking at his work records but that makes no sense to me. You would think that if a young beautiful girl went missing in front of my house and I saw someone running on the side of 112 I would definitely remember it.

I think people need to stop these illusions of grandeur they have when posting on these forums. These are for people to present their theories and run through ideas. This is
Not CNN or a newspaper, this is not viewed by te general public & most people don't even know they exist.
I think it does a huge disservice to try to make people feel bad for posting theories on here about different potential suspects. I find it highly suspicious that there's a few posters on here that are making it a campaign to try to make people feel bad about posting theories as if they r ruining someone's life. Ever notice that these guys are the biggest posters? They've been here EVERY day, it's crazy.
Just my 2¢
-Jenkins

Jenkins wrote:

. I find it highly suspicious that there's a few posters on here that are making it a campaign to try to make people feel bad about posting theories as if they r ruining someone's life. Ever notice that these guys are the biggest posters? They've been here EVERY day, it's crazy.
Just my 2¢
-Jenkins

I feel ya on that brah!.. never heard of the case myself untill I was bored on netflix one night... I mentioned it to several of my friends on fcb.. & just showed them the ID show.. For all we know she coulda been living down here & we'd a neva knowed!! It wouldnt let me quote the whole post for sum reason.. but ya right.. its the internet.. honestly..