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<quoted text>there's at least 3 vehicles along 112 tonight between 302 and Easton that would appear to be abandoned. People do it all the time to either hike or catch up with friends and hop on the snowmobile or ATV.
Yes, and thank you. That's what police said (for whatever reason) I trust they have their reasons.

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<quoted text>And I'm sure SBD would know that. Hmm, will keep looking.
Someone recently posted that SBD went to the Swiftwater Stage Shop looking for Maura, but the poster accidentally referred to it as the swiftwater coffee shop. Could that be what you mean?

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the damage to her hood makes me believe she may have hit a higher vehicle,maybe at the first crash..Red truck,LE SUV?
Well, that and reportedly there were some other gaurdrails not too far away that were bashed in.

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Someone recently posted that SBD went to the Swiftwater Stage Shop looking for Maura, but the poster accidentally referred to it as the swiftwater coffee shop. Could that be what you mean?
Maybe, oh dear, maybe, thank you.
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<quoted text>Sharon said that and so did the others in the room. Sharon had started out wanting to go retieve her notebook and was told to never mind, she would get a copy of the conversation, but claims she never did. She said this and i only wish I knew if it were true. Surely you may recall all the chatter about that back in the day of MMM forums. Many thought this made no sense. Oh well.
As for the coffe house, maybe it was a cafe, but I'm looking for it. Doesn't make it true, but I did just read it the other day. Maybe here? I don't go to JR blog much anymore, no time for both.
I very well remember Sharon writing that she couldn't reach Fred to tell him of the meeting (press release?)....and that she wanted to write down the results of the meeting...and was told she would get a copy...and that she did not receive a copy...Coffee house..? Dunkins in Woodsville..?
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<quoted text>Well, that and reportedly there were some other gaurdrails not too far away that were bashed in.
Has it been confirmed they were bashed in that night?I've seen it out there&can only imagine how many times guardrails get bashed during winter.

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A student vanishes, and none knows why
Woman who left crash had planned a getaway
By Peter DeMarco, Globe Corresondent, 2/15/2004
Six days have passed since college student Maura Murray crashed her car on a rural highway in northern New Hampshire and disappeared without a trace. But as family, friends, and investigators continue their search for the 21-year-old Hanson native, two questions continue to baffle them: Where was Murray going, and what was she running from?
A junior in the University of Massachusetts at Amherst's nursing program, Murray was doing well in school. She had a dedicated boyfriend, a loving family, and close friends. Her father, Frederick, had just told her he wanted to buy her a new car.
But on Monday, Murray apparently decided she needed to get away from life for a while. In short order, she withdrew a few hundred dollars from an ATM machine, packed her cellphone wall charger and her favorite stuffed monkey into her Saturn, e-mailed her professors to tell them she wouldn't be in class all week, and headed north for the White Mountains.
Whatever her intended destination was, she never made it there in her car.
At about 7 that night, while taking a sharp turn on Wild Ammonoosuc Road in Woodsville, N.H., Murray lost control and slammed into a snow bank. Shaken by the accident, and apparently intoxicated, Murray told a witness she didn't need help, local police said. The witness went to call the police and by the time they arrived Murray was gone.
Using tracking dogs, helicopters, and trained searchers, local and state police, as well as state fish and game officials, covered nearly 20 miles along Route 112, but found no trace of Murray's footprints in the snow. The tracking dogs lost her scent within 100 feet of the accident, leading investigators and her loved ones to believe she either hitched a ride and continued on her way, or was abducted.
"We're all under the assumption that since the trail sort of falls off someone picked her up. We really hope she doesn't quite understand how many people have been looking for her," said high school friend Carly Muise. "Maybe if she doesn't realize that, the person who gave her a ride will and will come forward." Murray, a former top student and track star at Whitman-Hanson Regional High School, is described by friends and family as a responsible, attractive young woman who is very close to her family, in particular her father, who spend yesterday checking bus stations in New Hampshire and Vermont for any signs of her.
A self-reliant woman, Murray toughed out three semesters as a chemical engineer at the US Military Academy at West Point before deciding the Army wasn't for her. Since transferring to the University of Massachusetts, she has been a successful student in the nursing program, said dean Eileen Breslin.
If Murray was troubled by something, family and friends said, it might have been a small car accident she got into last Saturday night, when she damaged her father's new Toyota.
The day after the accident, she called her boyfriend, Army Lieutenant Bill Rausch, who is stationed in Oklahoma, in tears. A day later, on Monday, she got into her Saturn and headed north.
Rausch, who got a leave of absence from the Army, arrived in New Hampshire on Thursday. Joined by his parents, who drove from Ohio, and by Murray's father and some of her siblings, Rausch has spent the past few days driving across both New Hampshire and Vermont, stopping at local gas stations, bus stations, and police headquarters, asking whether anyone has seen Murray.
Yesterday morning, Rausch and his father were told that Murray might have been at a McDonald's in St. Johnsbury, Vt. They drove there, but no one had seen her.
"Obviously, we're hoping for the best. If I just got some news, although I guess no news is good news," Rausch said.
OK, so there is one, albeit one with many other discrepancies.

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<quoted text>I very well remember Sharon writing that she couldn't reach Fred to tell him of the meeting (press release?)....and that she wanted to write down the results of the meeting...and was told she would get a copy...and that she did not receive a copy...Coffee house..? Dunkins in Woodsville..?
Thank you Shack. Alot of this is not remembered by some and I am not exactly in the Best light today, so you coming in helps.
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Something i have never seen asked here...Where there plows out at around 7:00 that night?

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Has it been confirmed they were bashed in that night?I've seen it out there&can only imagine how many times guardrails get bashed during winter.
No, some pictures wer taken of those gaurdrails, but I have no idea if anyone has pursued that angle.
Paint chips, whatever. This might still be a good one for the PI's if not police. I think Snewzertripod has it on her web shots page.

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all of this speculation has been advanced from time to time. no new news.
not sure i understand the point of endless repetition; it doesn't make the argument any more convincing, imo.
The timing thing is pretty huge, imo. A lot of things could have happened if what Columbo says is right. That's why I'd like some actual proof it is right. I am having a hard time believing it. Many things I had initially ruled out due to timing - i.e., likelihood of another vehicle, the amount of time a perp may have, how long it took LE to respond, reliability of eyewitness accounts and about ten other things - become much more possible and likely.

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the damage to her hood makes me believe she may have hit a higher vehicle,maybe at the first crash..Red truck,LE SUV?
I've always thought LE or bus were possibilities. The timing has always kept me from thinking too hard about it. Couldn't have been a full-on collision, but another vehicle being involved is always possible, especially around the tight curve. I was never sold 100% on it being just the swipe of a snow bank.

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Thought I would bring forward three relevant posts from 2010 - thoughts? Paris, if you are still here tonight - I think you commented well on the time discrepancy. Of course, I can't get my fingers on that post right now, but I'm looking!
Was it a post that I, myself wrote? Maybe I can find it if you refresh my memory. I associate things with times and settings and what I may have had to type quickly/or not. I might remember with your help.
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posted by grassy knoll

The following will give you an idea of the problems faced by LE in Haverhill, NH when Maura disappeared........in addition to which, IMO, they are grossly underpaid...the following are quotes by Chief William of the Haverhill PD taken from a budget advisory committee meeting held January 19, 2004...about three weeks before Maura disappeared.

We developed a plan for our new base station communications and you are going to see that in this year’s budget; we are presently operating our radio system off a mobile radio at the Town Highway Garage and the communications with our radios is spotty at best and sometimes an officer can’t communicate with dispatch or vise versa.
Chief Williams said he is presently up to six officers hired but there are only four working presently. One officer has graduated the academy and is in the field training program which is 16 weeks where he rides along and is taught the hands on aspects of the job; he is presently half way through that. The other officer is in his third week at the Police Academy so we won’t see him until March. He has already completed the field training phase so when he gets out of the academy in March, he will be able to start right in and take a cruiser shift by himself.

http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Budget%20Advi... ( http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Budget%20Advi... ) 1/19/04

Over a year later, it would seem their communication problems are not resolved.

TALK TO ME TROOPER!!

Frank and Earnest think the New Hampshire State Police is a pretty up-to-date organization, but the other day one of the boys saw a trooper come through town and wave at a Haverhill officer who was in the black and white HPD cruiser. The officer waved back and on their way they went. Seems that the two did not communicate by radio because the state cruisers cannot talk to the locals and the locals can't talk to them because they ain't on the same frequency.
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Brilliant Brian wrote:
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OK, so there is one, albeit one with many other discrepancies.
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RE: Missing Woman: Maura Murray--NH--02/09/2004
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2007, 09:19:33 PM »
www.boston.com/news/local...g_student/

With no new leads, FBI joins search for missing student

By Peter DeMarco, Globe Correspondent, 2/20/2004

The FBI has joined in the search for missing college student Maura Murray, but without a single lead in the nearly two-week old case, New Hampshire authorities said the additional investigators might not make a difference.

Murray, a 21-year-old Hanson native and nursing student at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, vanished the night of Feb. 9 after crashing her car into a snowbank on a rural road in Woodsville, N.H.

Police in helicopters and with their dogs searched the area for a second time yesterday, but with no evidence that Murray fled into the woods, her family and authorities believe she either hitched a ride and is on her own, or was abducted.

Missing persons cases are typically handled by local and state authorities unless a federal crime has been committed.

So far, investigators have found no evidence that Murray was kidnapped or taken across state lines.

Nevertheless, at the urging of Murray's father, Fred, New Hampshire State Police are now working with Boston-based FBI agents on the case, officials said.

Though police have questioned many of Murray's family members and friends, FBI agents will probably return to UMass-Amherst and Hanson for further interviews and background checks, said Lieutenant John Scarinza, commander of State Police Troop F.

"We're now at the phase where we need to learn more about the week before Maura headed north," he said. "If any friends or associates or classmates had any discussions with her about her wanting to come up north, or places she'd like to visit, or important destinations, we'd like to hear from them. Maybe that would help us understand where she went, or why."

Hours before she departed for New Hampshire on Feb. 9, Murray e-mailed a professor and her part-time campus job to say she was heading home for the week because of a death in the family, according to school officials and the Massachusetts Daily Collegian, a student newspaper.

Withdrawing $280 from an ATM, she loaded her Saturn with clothing, a book, and a stuffed toy monkey and headed to New Hampshire, where she had frequently hiked with her father. She told no one of her plans.

About 7 that evening, she lost control on a sharp bend on Route 112 in Woodsville. Unhurt, but appearing to be intoxicated, she refused help from a motorist who offered assistance and was gone when police reached her car about 10 minutes later, officials said.
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I've always thought LE or bus were possibilities. The timing has always kept me from thinking too hard about it. Couldn't have been a full-on collision, but another vehicle being involved is always possible, especially around the tight curve. I was never sold 100% on it being just the swipe of a snow bank.
It could also be considered that the contact with another vehicle could have occured at the first accident&she was being pursued by that person,maybe it was the bus,maybe it was the red truck,or an LE vehicle.Seems like there were people around looking for something or specifically her.

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So, I do wonder. mcsmom, what their sources are? The same source?

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posted by grassy knoll
The following will give you an idea of the problems faced by LE in Haverhill, NH when Maura disappeared........in addition to which, IMO, they are grossly underpaid...the following are quotes by Chief William of the Haverhill PD taken from a budget advisory committee meeting held January 19, 2004...about three weeks before Maura disappeared.
We developed a plan for our new base station communications and you are going to see that in this year’s budget; we are presently operating our radio system off a mobile radio at the Town Highway Garage and the communications with our radios is spotty at best and sometimes an officer can’t communicate with dispatch or vise versa.
Chief Williams said he is presently up to six officers hired but there are only four working presently. One officer has graduated the academy and is in the field training program which is 16 weeks where he rides along and is taught the hands on aspects of the job; he is presently half way through that. The other officer is in his third week at the Police Academy so we won’t see him until March. He has already completed the field training phase so when he gets out of the academy in March, he will be able to start right in and take a cruiser shift by himself.
http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Budget%20Advi... ( http://www.town.haverhill.nh.us/Budget%20Advi... ) 1/19/04
Over a year later, it would seem their communication problems are not resolved.
TALK TO ME TROOPER!!
Frank and Earnest think the New Hampshire State Police is a pretty up-to-date organization, but the other day one of the boys saw a trooper come through town and wave at a Haverhill officer who was in the black and white HPD cruiser. The officer waved back and on their way they went. Seems that the two did not communicate by radio because the state cruisers cannot talk to the locals and the locals can't talk to them because they ain't on the same frequency.
What is this? The links don't work.
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#2 (from the Globe)
RE: Missing Woman: Maura Murray--NH--02/09/2004
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2007, 09:19:33 PM »
www.boston.com/news/local...g_student/
With no new leads, FBI joins search for missing student
By Peter DeMarco, Globe Correspondent, 2/20/2004
The FBI has joined in the search for missing college student Maura Murray, but without a single lead in the nearly two-week old case, New Hampshire authorities said the additional investigators might not make a difference.
Murray, a 21-year-old Hanson native and nursing student at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, vanished the night of Feb. 9 after crashing her car into a snowbank on a rural road in Woodsville, N.H.
Police in helicopters and with their dogs searched the area for a second time yesterday, but with no evidence that Murray fled into the woods, her family and authorities believe she either hitched a ride and is on her own, or was abducted.
Missing persons cases are typically handled by local and state authorities unless a federal crime has been committed.
So far, investigators have found no evidence that Murray was kidnapped or taken across state lines.
Nevertheless, at the urging of Murray's father, Fred, New Hampshire State Police are now working with Boston-based FBI agents on the case, officials said.
Though police have questioned many of Murray's family members and friends, FBI agents will probably return to UMass-Amherst and Hanson for further interviews and background checks, said Lieutenant John Scarinza, commander of State Police Troop F.
"We're now at the phase where we need to learn more about the week before Maura headed north," he said. "If any friends or associates or classmates had any discussions with her about her wanting to come up north, or places she'd like to visit, or important destinations, we'd like to hear from them. Maybe that would help us understand where she went, or why."
Hours before she departed for New Hampshire on Feb. 9, Murray e-mailed a professor and her part-time campus job to say she was heading home for the week because of a death in the family, according to school officials and the Massachusetts Daily Collegian, a student newspaper.
Withdrawing $280 from an ATM, she loaded her Saturn with clothing, a book, and a stuffed toy monkey and headed to New Hampshire, where she had frequently hiked with her father. She told no one of her plans.
About 7 that evening, she lost control on a sharp bend on Route 112 in Woodsville. Unhurt, but appearing to be intoxicated, she refused help from a motorist who offered assistance and was gone when police reached her car about 10 minutes later, officials said.
this timeline doesnt make sense..it would place LE at the car at 7:10.....Why would ANYONE call 911 later if this were the case?

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This needn't be flamed, it's a perfectly legit question.
They arent flaming what I wrote. They are flaming me. No worry I'm used to it. I feed the squirrels with all the nuts I get. LOL

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