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Hyannis, MA
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Im going to retract my last statement.The reporter who stated the accident as being at 7:00..Was he looking at the undoctored log?
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mcsmom
Stowe, VT
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Around 7 p.m. that evening she crashed her car into a snowbank on Route 112 in New Hampshire several miles from the Vermont border. Police say a witness offered help, but that Murray refused and told the witness not to call police. Portsmouth Herald 2/17/04
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mcsmom
Stowe, VT
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At about 7 that night, while taking a sharp turn on Wild Ammonoosuc Road in Woodsville, N.H., Murray lost control and slammed into a snow bank. Boston Globe 2/15/04
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Lawrence, KS
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Boston wrote: Im going to retract my last statement.The reporter who stated the accident as being at 7:00..Was he looking at the undoctored log? I am sure we will never know the source since it was probably word of mouth. We know the source of the other 98% of the articles that say 7:27pm because we can read from the source...don't you agree, mcsmom?
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mcsmom
Stowe, VT
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MAURA IS MISSING PART II: The Accident Special Reports - Maura Murray is Missing Written by Maribeth Conway Tue, Jun 26, 2007 01:00 Nestled in the Connecticut River Valley, a stone's throw from the Vermont border, Woodsville is a rural village within the town of Haverhill, New Hampshire. Woodsville has a year-round population of 1,080 and was best known as the home of America's oldest covered bridge -- until the night of Mon. Feb. 9, 2004. The site of the accident on Wild Ammonoosuc Road Sometime after 7 that evening, 21-year-old Maura Murray found herself in a snow bank off Wild Ammonoosuc Road in Woodsville. How and why she arrived at that point, and what happened next is the source of great mystery, conjecture and heartache. Wild Ammonoosuc Road, also known as Route 112, winds along the northern end of Woodsville near the town line with Bath, New Hampshire. The road is named for the nearby Wild Ammonoosuc River, which starts in the White Mountains and snakes west for about 15 miles, eventually flowing into the Connecticut River. Little is known about Maura's trip north after she left the UMass campus in Amherst, Mass around 4 p.m. Presumably she drove Route 116 out of Amherst, picked up U.S. Route 91 North in South Deerfield, Mass. and headed toward New Hampshire. Considering that Maura landed on Route 112 in Woodsville, she likely took exit 17 off of Route 91 to reach Route 302. In winter, local travelers know to take Route 302 if headed to Bartlett, N.H. instead of the faster, but snakelike Route 112, which later turns into the Kancamagus Highway. The entire journey from Amherst would have taken Maura 2 1/2 to 3 hours. There was snow on the ground, but it was a mild February evening in Woodsville. It had been quite cold earlier in the day, but by 2 p.m. a warming trend drove the temperatures above freezing and they hovered around 33 degrees Fahrenheit for most of the night.(Later reports would erroneously state the high temperature at 12 degrees.) Shortly after 7 p.m. Faith Westman heard a loud thump outside her white gambrel-style home at 70 Wild Ammonoosuc Road. Her house is located inside a sharp left-hand bend in the road; Westman lives there with her husband, Tim. The couple also owns The Weathered Barn, a well-known local landmark, which is across the street at 69 Wild Ammonoosuc Road. In this barn, Tim Westman, a renowned craftsman, restores antique musical instruments.
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Lawrence, KS
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MAURA IS MISSING PART II: The Accident Special Reports - Maura Murray is Missing Written by Maribeth Conway Tue, Jun 26, 2007 01:00 Shortly after 7 p.m. Faith Westman heard a loud thump outside her white gambrel-style home at 70 Wild Ammonoosuc Road. At 7:27 p.m. Westman called the Grafton County Sheriff's Department to report the vehicle, which she described as being in a "ditch." Sounds crazy to me. Left her out there for 24 minutes in the pitch-black freezing cold?! Wow.
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mcsmom
Stowe, VT
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Brilliant Brian wrote: <quoted text> I am sure we will never know the source since it was probably word of mouth. We know the source of the other 98% of the articles that say 7:27pm because we can read from the source...don't you agree, mcsmom? I think the Boston Globe does their homework, wouldn't you agree, BB? I have an article that quotes Williams as saying the accident occurred "just before 7"
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Hyannis, MA
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So they cooked the books.is there an interview with Faith Westerman anywhere?
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It sounds like SBD and the Westmans would know the time they heard/came across the accident..there wasnt a time warp..They wouldnt hear/notice at 7:03 then sit&eat before bothering to call 911.
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text> I think the Boston Globe does their homework, wouldn't you agree, BB? I have an article that quotes Williams as saying the accident occurred "just before 7" so what are you thinking went on??
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Lawrence, KS
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text> I think the Boston Globe does their homework, wouldn't you agree, BB? I have an article that quotes Williams as saying the accident occurred "just before 7" So I am supposed to believe it now? That would be like me taking their article that says, and I quote: "At the time she left Amherst, relatives said, Murray had been upset that she had crashed her father's car two days earlier. Before heading north toward the White Mountains, Murray withdrew a few hundred dollars from an ATM machine, packed her cellphone wall charger and her favorite stuffed monkey into her Saturn, and e-mailed her professors to tell them she would not be in class all week because of a "family problem." ....and saying they must not know what they are talking about. They probably have five other articles that say she went missing at 7:30, like most articles do. How do they know? That's what I want to know.
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mcsmom wrote: At about 7 that night, while taking a sharp turn on Wild Ammonoosuc Road in Woodsville, N.H., Murray lost control and slammed into a snow bank. Boston Globe 2/15/04 This is what everyone is going by for the supposed 7:03 accident? Newspapers don't see the dispatch logs to know exact timing when the call came in. IMHO saying "at about 7" isn't proof enough to believe there was another 7:03 accident.
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Since: Feb 12
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Well g-nite ya'll, I'm too tired to stay up.
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Lawrence, KS
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Just me--paris wrote: Well g-nite ya'll, I'm too tired to stay up. Good night.
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Lawrence, KS
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text>This is what everyone is going by for the supposed 7:03 accident? Newspapers don't see the dispatch logs to know exact timing when the call came in. IMHO saying "at about 7" isn't proof enough to believe there was another 7:03 accident. Exactly. Saying "about 7pm" to me sounds lazy, more like they didn't WANT to do their homework.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Wowzer the real one wrote: <quoted text>This is what everyone is going by for the supposed 7:03 accident? Newspapers don't see the dispatch logs to know exact timing when the call came in. IMHO saying "at about 7" isn't proof enough to believe there was another 7:03 accident. both the media and police documents are notorious for recording information inaccurately; courts dismiss the significance of 'clerical errors'. conjecture by way of using a microscope is unlikely to produce definitive evidence.
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citigirl
Accord, MA
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Jenkins wrote: It's very possible that her backpack or some other belongings have been found but never were turned in to LE bc whoever found them thought that someone just lost them and had no idea it could b related to a dissapearance. We have to remember that contrary to popular belief on this board that most people have never heard of Maura or this case, including locals. I lived in the area for 12 ys and no one I ever mentioned this case to ever heard of it, including my roommate who lived in woodsville his entire life. It sucks but it's true, the average Joe on the street in Nh has never heard of Maura Murray or her disappearance This is true. Years back while searching for Maura we would talk to the locals. There were some of them that were unaware of Mauras case and that she had gone missing from 112.
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citigirl
Accord, MA
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Looking4AMoose wrote: OK so lets assume for a second that the 7:03 time frame is real....how did the accident get reported ? it would've either been by radio or a residential phone. At that time, the only cell phones that worked along 112 were the ones associated with the Onstar technology. I dont know what kind of cell phone service Det. Columbo had in 2004. But we were standing near the trees with the ribbon on it and his cell phone did not work. We went down in front of SBDs house and his phone rang and he had a conversation with the caller that had called him while we were standing in front of SBDs house.
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Looking4AMoose wrote: <quoted text>I have found quite the contrary here actually---anyone that I have asked has known who Maura is and minor details of the accident and that she still has not been found nor has it been solved. Granted, I'm within a mile of where her vehicle was found---but only about 1/3 of the people actually live here--most have weekend or vacation homes here and are from Mass, RI, CT and VT---a few from FL and AZ. I would think knowledge is more widespread than you realize. I believe now that more people are aware but in the early years of her disappearance they were not.
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Since: Dec 11
Franconia NH
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citigirl wrote: <quoted text>I dont know what kind of cell phone service Det. Columbo had in 2004. But we were standing near the trees with the ribbon on it and his cell phone did not work. We went down in front of SBDs house and his phone rang and he had a conversation with the caller that had called him while we were standing in front of SBDs house. I was using a Kyrocera (sp.) phone and a US Cellular plan. Got the phone and plan at JA Corey on Main st. Littleton. The service sucked pretty much. I did have service in some of the areas back then, but it was sparse, very sparse.(sp.). I have Verizon now on a Straight talk phone from WallyWorld. It works pretty well but still NO SERVICE at the accident scene. John
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