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Just me--paris wrote:

I'll try to help here. I recall CS saying it took him10-20 minutes to get to the scene of the crash. That's vague, right?
At first a W-Man thought they not only saw a person smoking, but that it was a man smoking.
Somehow CS already knew about that rag stuffed up there. He went to the W-Mans, so many, many family and forumers have stated such. Not to forget the newspeople, they reported this too.
But you're right Jenkins. When Maura's family went in, CS and others said they thought that Fred had been driving and just left his car like that to go snowmobiling like many others have done.
Makes little sense. They were already worried about the windshield and a possible head injury. Already had heard from Barbara that she had no idea where the girl was. Maybe conflicting reports between the two separate callers? One saying "girl", the other saying man. Because it did say so in the logs.
A side note. Just prior to all this people were stopped for operating their snowmobile with the headlights OFF. The passenger,(Maura)? had no helmet on, the driver got a citation. Just wondering out loud here if that could be one way to get away, hop on a snowmobile and drive off with the lights dim.
Problem is, someone was seen at the trunk of the car and even though some say it was too far for the W-Mns to see, it's believed that a woman, and Maura to be exact, was at the trunk of her car 1-2 minutes b4 police came driving up. Supposedly too is that the woman of that house said" She was just there 1-2 minutes b4 you pulled up", so I tend to think CS really did go to the first callers house, first.
It took Butch 10-15 minutes I thought to get through as all lines were busy. His x wife had to take the call because he was out on his bus doing paperwork and waiting to talk with the officer. I know he helped look for Maura, even going to a nearby coffee house. Funny they might think she could hoof it that far in such a small timeframe.

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Det Columbo wrote:

Boston Globe:
At 3:40 p.m. Monday, she withdrew $280 from an area ATM, then stopped at a liquor store. Surveillance cameras at the bank machine and in the store show that she was alone.
Maura was next seen at 7 p.m. in the White Mountains hamlet of Haverhill, N.H., an area where she had hiked and camped with her father.
Schoolbus driver Butch Atwood came across her car in an embankment, he said, and stopped to ask if she needed help.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Just me--paris"CS and others said they thought that Fred had been driving and just left his car like that to go snowmobiling like many others have done." Not sure where you are getting your info from but this is not true.

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Det Columbo wrote:

Boston Globe:
At 3:40 p.m. Monday, she withdrew $280 from an area ATM, then stopped at a liquor store. Surveillance cameras at the bank machine and in the store show that she was alone.
Maura was next seen at 7 p.m. in the White Mountains hamlet of Haverhill, N.H., an area where she had hiked and camped with her father.
Schoolbus driver Butch Atwood came across her car in an embankment, he said, and stopped to ask if she needed help.

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Brilliant Brian wrote:

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So I am supposed to believe it now? That would be like me taking their article that says, and I quote: "At the time she left Amherst, relatives said, Murray had been upset that she had crashed her father's car two days earlier. Before heading north toward the White Mountains, Murray withdrew a few hundred dollars from an ATM machine, packed her cellphone wall charger and her favorite stuffed monkey into her Saturn, and e-mailed her professors to tell them she would not be in class all week because of a "family problem."
....and saying they must not know what they are talking about. They probably have five other articles that say she went missing at 7:30, like most articles do. How do they know? That's what I want to know.

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mcsmom wrote:

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I think the Boston Globe does their homework, wouldn't you agree, BB?
I have an article that quotes Williams as saying the accident occurred "just before 7"

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Snowy wrote:

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both the media and police documents are notorious for recording information inaccurately; courts dismiss the significance of 'clerical errors'. conjecture by way of using a microscope is unlikely to produce definitive evidence.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Brilliant Brian, This is a difficult timeline to nail, creating a difficult problem for LE. I inadvertantly stated the 7pm search for maura via my scanner recollection. I was quite shocked this held any importance. I had a friend living on Bradley Hill Road that was late getting home from work and was worried. She had moved from Florida and this was her first winter in the North. I was sure when the description of young female slid off the road that it could be her as there was no answer on her phone. It had snowed earlier. She was usually earlier arriving home. She was late that night, although she of course called me after with my frantic calls on her machine.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Brilliant Brian, This is a difficult timeline to nail, creating a difficult problem for LE. I inadvertantly stated the 7pm search for maura via my scanner recollection. I was quite shocked this held any importance. I had a friend living on Bradley Hill Road that was late getting home from work and was worried. She had moved from Florida and this was her first winter in the North. I was sure when the description of young female slid off the road that it could be her as there was no answer on her phone. It had snowed earlier. She was usually earlier arriving home. She was late that night, although she of course called me after with my frantic calls on her machine.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Brilliant Brian, This is a difficult timeline to nail, creating a difficult problem for LE. I inadvertantly stated the 7pm search for maura via my scanner recollection. I was quite shocked this held any importance. I had a friend living on Bradley Hill Road that was late getting home from work and was worried. She had moved from Florida and this was her first winter in the North. I was sure when the description of young female slid off the road that it could be her as there was no answer on her phone. It had snowed earlier. She was usually earlier arriving home. She was late that night, although she of course called me after with my frantic calls on her machine.

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Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Brilliant Brian, This is a difficult timeline to nail, creating a difficult problem for LE. I inadvertantly stated the 7pm search for maura via my scanner recollection. I was quite shocked this held any importance. I had a friend living on Bradley Hill Road that was late getting home from work and was worried. She had moved from Florida and this was her first winter in the North. I was sure when the description of young female slid off the road that it could be her as there was no answer on her phone. It had snowed earlier. She was usually earlier arriving home. She was late that night, although she of course called me after with my frantic calls on her machine.

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Just me--paris wrote:

<quoted text>OMG, ask Helena for one, there was much talk about it. Anyone who has saved the old pages ofmm andmmm will see it. Sharon is the one it was said to so ask her. And IF you are right<They made it up and told us, why?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Anne I'm not trying to be difficult and I know you and I have disagreed on this before but I truly don't understand how you remembered word for word and right to the minute what was said on the scanner, even being worried about your friend. It wasn't until you joined in on the MM forum that you remembered hearing this call several months before.
Can you explain why after all this time there is still no proof that there was another accident in that area a little earlier. If it came over the scanner then someone called it in and it would have been on the dispatch log. There is no such information anywhere that I have seen. Columbos been working on it for years and yet there's still nothing to make us believe another accident took place earlier.
Why are some bringing up these old newspaper articles showing a time of "about 7"? Do we actually believe that they would spend time hunting down the exact timing of something before printing it?
And Anne as I've said before I didn't hear a second accident on my scanner. Are we on the same frequency?

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I dont know what kind of cell phone service Det. Columbo had in 2004. But we were standing near the trees with the ribbon on it and his cell phone did not work. We went down in front of SBDs house and his phone rang and he had a conversation with the caller that had called him while we were standing in front of SBDs house.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Yes CS thought Fred was driving but there was never anything saying that he may have gone snowmobiling.

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Just me--paris wrote:

Murray's family said Smith told them he thought the driver of the Saturn was Murray's father, to whom the car was
registered. Mysterious to them, though, is why Smith asked neighbors, the night of the crash, "Where is the girl?"
http://www.mauramurraymissing.com/CaledonianR...
Don't have time to find more for ya, it's mom and me day, gotta go....