Maura Murray

Dawn wrote:

Thanks Ravetown
Columbo
where are the tree's she hit? did they cut them down. I went up and down the street. I didn't see any little trees close to the road? I am guessing east is further away from the barn heading in right lane where maura's car was.

The trees are still there. At least they were this morning when I went by. They are bigger now than they were 6 years ago.

Dawn wrote:

who in the hell is mcSpy? Let SBD rest in peace for pete sake. saying he was a hoarder.. by gosh what is wrong with these people.
What is he guilty of??
nothing.
he just lived at the corner where she went missing.. but I do not feel comfortable with what people are posting over there.

He wasn't a hoarder Dawn. He had a very neat place and a large garage that he sold antiques from.
Guess it doesn't matter if someone is alive or dead. There are a few that still get pleasure from dragging people thru the mud.

Wowzer

Are they the three tree's in a row that are past the blue ribbon by the yellow street sign? showing windy road? or closer to the weathered barn

http://maps.google.com/...

Is this where the car actually ended up?

why not use one of the tree's she hit for the ribbon ( or allegedly hit)

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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He wasn't a hoarder Dawn. He had a very neat place and a large garage that he sold antiques from.
Guess it doesn't matter if someone is alive or dead. There are a few that still get pleasure from dragging people thru the mud.

I missed that comment about him hoarding and about her driving a Saturn. It does sound like she is up to her usual games. Time to get the rolled up newspaper. Watch her scamper away.

I had seen his house driving through the area, both before and after her disappearance and I don't remember the house or yard being unkempt.

At all! What a dirtbag to say such a thing.

Oh, I just remembered, Fred used that same word to describe someone in the area. Dirtbag. You don't think he could have meant.......Nooooo he couldn't have meant her could he?

Bill

Dawn wrote:

Wowzer
Are they the three tree's in a row that are past the blue ribbon by the yellow street sign? showing windy road? or closer to the weathered barn

Yes they are close to the sign. There's a line of those trees with a break in them, probably planted years ago to give the house privacy from the road.

Dawn wrote:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF 8&t=h&layer=c&cbll =44.119334,-71.936224&pano id=gWKaFQbre7VE3i84laM30w& cbp=12,88.16,,0,13.71&ll=4 4.119249,-71.936331&spn=0. 010321,0.01929&z=16
Is this where the car actually ended up?
why not use one of the tree's she hit for the ribbon ( or allegedly hit)

Just guessing but maybe because anyone driving around that curve can't miss the ribbon. It wouldn't be as obvious down the road.

Sara wrote:

Has anyone ever got the idea that maybe Smith DID see Maura. "Where's the girl". Maybe the first accident female slid off road and got into a private vehicle. I know everyone keeps saying there wasn't a first accident, but I am not fully convinced. Just a thought.

Sara, I am not convinced either. I think its entirely possible there was a previous accident that night.

Dawn wrote:

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re: Mason.......... if you only knew..........

I do.

WTF-the-original wrote:

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Didn't think she was drinking mudslides in the car. I do think she was likely drinking wine, you know, the box of wine on the back seat, through a Twizzler. We (at least I) don't know if the mudslide mixables were with her in the car, if she took them when she fled or used them prior to her leaving the school.
Think red splashes inside the car, wine box (anyone know if it was red wine - I forget if we knew what kind of wine) on the rear seat and red liquid in the bottle with the Twizzler under the car. There really shouldn't be much dispute about this, other than as an academic exercise.
Bill

Absence of trailing in the splashes.

Wine runs like water.....apparently just like WW has.....

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>Sara, I am not convinced either. I think its entirely possible there was a previous accident that night.

Of course you do, you're the one that heard it. Can you imagine what everyone else thinks? Its hard to accept that because no record of it means 1)didn't happen 2)not public information for evidential reasons. I have read on topix that people were already looking for her before 7pm on Monday. Was it just her friends or was LE already looking for her too?

mcsmom wrote:

<quoted text>Absence of trailing in the splashes.

I guess I don't know what this means?

Bill

Sara wrote:

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Of course you do, you're the one that heard it. Can you imagine what everyone else thinks? Its hard to accept that because no record of it means 1)didn't happen 2)not public information for evidential reasons. I have read on topix that people were already looking for her before 7pm on Monday. Was it just her friends or was LE already looking for her too?

I dont know exactly who was looking for her but some were.

Anne wrote:

<quoted text>I dont know exactly who was looking for her but some were.

If you don't know who was looking do you know where they were looking?

Sounds like a few people in this thread need to be investigated.

Yepz, I thankz thatz a grade eye dear. Erbuddy give invastergaterz info sewz we can looklikeyuh.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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If you don't know who was looking do you know where they were looking?

Bump

remember the crazy days of 10,000 posts? guess there will be plenty of fun-time this winter to build on these mere 1,566.
the infection has spread to the christopher flynn thread.
and what about the relative thing in bethlehem? makes sense that MM might have been running away from someone/something to a safe destination...not far from where her car was last found.
and the distinction is well made....that only her car was found. she definitely had a plan.

Sara wrote:

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Of course you do, you're the one that heard it. Can you imagine what everyone else thinks? Its hard to accept that because no record of it means 1)didn't happen 2)not public information for evidential reasons. I have read on topix that people were already looking for her before 7pm on Monday. Was it just her friends or was LE already looking for her too?

Apparently Maura´s friends at UMass were looking for her fairly soon after she left and were worried enough to notify UMass security. Would be interesting to know exactly when security was alerted. And why her friends didn´t just assume she would shortly be back just like the time she went to Boston by herself.

hannah_b wrote:

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Apparently Maura´s friends at UMass were looking for her fairly soon after she left and were worried enough to notify UMass security. Would be interesting to know exactly when security was alerted. And why her friends didn´t just assume she would shortly be back just like the time she went to Boston by herself.

Amherst is a separate issue.
this reference and so-called search was mentioned by Anne in the context and in the vicinity of Anne's locale...where she made specific reference to 'several others' looking for MM prior to the dispatch she supposedly heard. she refused to elaborate on exactly the number of individuals looking for MM, but made it clear she knew of these individuals and had confirmed this information with them.
still, without evidence, these are not facts.
in addition, also to my recollection, she was advised by Wowzer and others to bring this information to the attention of authorities.
old news. it shouldn't even be repeated, as her account has not been confirmed.