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now that i can't answer. but i googled it.
seriously?
http://www.oddgarden.com/2011/08/shaved-pussy...
There is no way I'm clicking on that.

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I'm not saying I think this to be so, honestly I hope it is thoug, but in reality how difficult would it really be to stay hidden if u just never use your cell phone or cc ever again? Especially if she had a guy to help her do it. She could be loving in n Woodstock for all we know. If she just never gets arrested again than how would anybody ever find her?
Seriously, if she never uses anything w her name on it and never gets arrested how could anyone possibly find her?
At that point the only was she could b found would be if someone spotted her and the chances of that r slim to none.
Even in Nh nobody has ever heard of this case. I was asking people about it for years and I never spoke to one person who ever even heard of it, not one. & I'm talking about 20 miles from the scene of the accident.
On top of that most of the pictures released were old and most likely did not look very much like she did when she went missing
Unlikely she wouldn't have to use her social security number. Unlikely she would stay with the same guy for 8 years? JMHO
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amy researches wrote:
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+1 What are the pointy boots for?
Pointy Boots are for kicking the butts of those that deviate from the party line and disrespect the rules of the Murray cult.

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i'm glad you brought up the "F" word first in this context and not me, because several have considered the issues you mention, and especially in conjunction with the corolla accident.
it has even been suggested that he might have been the person accompanying her to NH / a tandem driver.
again, it is hard to make these comments without appearing to be cruel or insensitive. but neither of us is the first to mention them.
I've tried to consider this thing from all angles, including the possibility of her father's involvement. I had eagerly read the Advocate's board with theories of Mason, because he's a CDL. I work for a CDL, so I have much respect. Mason had some good points. My only refuting argument is that I've never heard of a criminal who wants the FBI called on himself. JMHO. Anything is possible. I wish Mason were still around posting.

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She may have been meeting the married man for a rendevous(hence,the ping,Booze&pregnancy searches)but met up with foul play.He would NEVER speak up.

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Pointy Boots are for kicking the butts of those that deviate from the party line and disrespect the rules of the Murray cult.
Oh, thank you! That will save me from clicking on Snowy's link.:-)

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Mar 8, 2012
 
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Replying to "simply sarcasm"-
The thing that made me think about this was seething Sharon said on the dissapeared show. She said that when she looked up the listings for the condo in Bartlett the one owned by the salamones was the cheapest one in town and that she knows that's why maira called that particular condo.
So the prices were listed and Maura clearly knew how much that particular condo would have cost. & yea it was the cheapest condo, but Its a condo, I seriously doubt u could even get 150 for a night.
Just the fact that she was calling condos says something. She wasnt calling around to find the cheapest motel room so she could afford it, she was looking for condos near Stowe and attitash, both expensive ski towns. She must have known that 240 wasn't gonna let her stay very long, unless we are under the assumption that she was a total idiot.
On top of that she was said to be extremely frugal and most likely chose that particular condo to call because it was the cheapest one listed in Bartlett.
There had to have been someone else she was meeting or coming with her.
In my eyes her travelling with someone in tandem explains a couple different thing.
I can see This asshole guy being like I'm sorry I punched you in the face, I'll pay for a nice condo up wherever you want, you find it and I'll pay for it.
It appears that she had another cell phone, most likely a prepaid that the family never knew about. Think about it, do u think shes gonna tell Billy or her dad that she's got another cell phone so she can talk to her new secret bf without Billy seeing the bill. She wouldn't tell her dad or probably even her sister about it, she might've been embarrassed but it also seems like her family really wanted her to b with Billy for whatever reason. She probably felt pressured to stay with him, why else would they stay together? He cheated on her several times including with her sisters friend?! What an asshole! & she had at least one other bf durin the relationship. We r really supposed to believe they were really gonna get married? What r they gonna do hang out with their kids and be like hey remember the time I cheated on you with your sisters friend and you had another bf? I find it funny that at the beginning they went through so much effort to make everyone think they had this perfect relationship, more bullshit.
Does anyone else get weirded out during the part of dossapeared where Sharon talks about Billy getting maura's phone records every month? I find it odd that her bf's famil got her phone bill every month, & then the was Sharon says it like Billy would "automatically" get all her call records too. I just found that whole part odd and I got the sense from watching it that her &/or Billy totally were looking at maura's phone records before de went missing. That's total speculation on my part mind you but that was the feeling I got from that segment.
I feel that there had to be somebody she was travelling with to Nh that nite
I've thought this too, about her having a second phone. At very least, she probably had a phone in her dorm room. Calls to/from a second boyfriend would not be made on a phone payed for by her current boyfriend's family. She also used calling cards, right? I assume LE checked the records for her dorm phone, but wouldn't necessarily release that info. Let us hope.:-)

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findmaura wrote:
She may have been meeting the married man for a rendevous(hence,the ping,Booze&pregnancy searches)but met up with foul play.He would NEVER speak up.
Good point.

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amy researches wrote:
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I've tried to consider this thing from all angles, including the possibility of her father's involvement. I had eagerly read the Advocate's board with theories of Mason, because he's a CDL. I work for a CDL, so I have much respect. Mason had some good points. My only refuting argument is that I've never heard of a criminal who wants the FBI called on himself. JMHO. Anything is possible. I wish Mason were still around posting.
great point that Fred wouldnt want the FBI called on himself.Did NH Le turn down the FBI coming in?

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i can't say time spent here has been well spent, or productive by any measure, but we all can justify why we stay!
i admit i first thought "amy" and then "amy researches" was another ploy by one of our posters to harass another poster by the same name, and who, coincidentally, also researches. of course, my suspicion had nothing to do with anything you wrote. i take responsibility for initially not being cordial to you.
happy you're back!
Thank you. No worries.:-)
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Snowy wrote:
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you're denying the evidence i've provided you.
whole threads have been deleted, so addt'l posts are likely unavailable.
i find many of your statements to be vague, denounce what is obvious, or conflict.
I have stated the facts as they are. Sorry Snowy but you are not always right. You have provided false evidence. Remember you are only a poster and that I and others have been actively involved in the search for Maura.

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Det Columbo wrote:
I believe that something that should be looked into is:
Haverhill has a person gone missing from an accident scene under somewhat suspicious circumstances.
2 days later when family shows up they give the family back a bunch of stuff from the car to look through.
More of Maura's stuff is given back to family and stored at Kathleens house.
LE tries to give Fred Murray the car back but Fred refuses. The car is wrecked and not worth dealing with.
After all this they call all of this stuff back into evidence and impound the car.
Why would they give the stuff back this quick.?
Why would they want the stuff back that quickly.?
Just more questions.?
John
There are lots of Why's.
Assuming is bad. But I assume they initially thought they were dealing with someone who fled the scene of a DUI. Then, when she didn't turn up, it because a big OOPS moment. I'm seen stupider things happen, almost daily.:-)

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Wow. I don't even drink. Let me try that last reply to Columbo again:

Assuming is bad. But I assume they initially thought they were dealing with someone who fled the scene of a DUI. Then, when she didn't turn up, it became a big OOPS moment. I've seen stupider things happen, almost daily.:-)

*edited to correct so many typos my post made no sense even to me

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Det Columbo wrote:
I believe that something that should be looked into is:
Haverhill has a person gone missing from an accident scene under somewhat suspicious circumstances.
2 days later when family shows up they give the family back a bunch of stuff from the car to look through.
More of Maura's stuff is given back to family and stored at Kathleens house.
LE tries to give Fred Murray the car back but Fred refuses. The car is wrecked and not worth dealing with.
After all this they call all of this stuff back into evidence and impound the car.
Why would they give the stuff back this quick.?
Why would they want the stuff back that quickly.?
Just more questions.?
John
There are lots of Why's.
It wasn't really THAT quick. I've mentioned the same exact things a few weeks ago, when I thought it was just LE ineptitude and not them knowing, being involved or covering a crime up. They realized after a couple weeks she WASN'T coming back and it appeared to me to be a CYA thing - they better make it look like they've been investigating a crime since after two weeks she isn't back. However now I have a hard time convincing myself that a rogue inside element had something to do with it. Do you have a different reason why? I'd love some answers from a seasoned detective, I'm relatively new at this....

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amy researches wrote:
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Please be kidding.
She's not kidding Amy. In the old MMM forum there was a group of people that took pleasure in blaming and bashing the locals.
When the bashing got too out of hand or named locals were being blamed the moderator Helena would send them to the TOT (Time out tent). Bob the bartender would serve up virtual drinks in the tent. One person did such a good job of bashing that she would happily go to the tot before being asked by moderator. She continues to this day when she gets a chance and recently stated she stands behind everything she says.
It was a game from the beginning, by the very ones that claimed they were searching for what happened to Maura, at the expense of the the people of NH.
Hope that this will help everyone understand why some feel the way they do.

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EDIT: "However now I have a hard time convincing myself that a rogue inside element DIDN'T HAVE something to do with it."

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yeah, like that.
or....bad girl/bad boy....sits in Tot Tent for a time out. Bobfather doesn't serve in Tot Tent.
crazy, crazy shit.
Okay, I wanted to make sure before I commented further. I don't get that whole thing - that 'Simply goes over to the warm ol' fire and snuggles up' and such. Maybe it's just me, but such descriptive writing is better left to.....well, fiction.
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I'm very glad you've been explaining some things lately. It really clarifies (at least for me) and gives better insight into how things play out, now.

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findmaura wrote:
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great point that Fred wouldnt want the FBI called on himself.Did NH Le turn down the FBI coming in?
Yes, NHSP turned down FBI more than once from what I understand.
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amy researches wrote:
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Oh, thank you! That will save me from clicking on Snowy's link.:-)
Rule #1 was: no talk about what happened in Amherst and Maura´s pre-accident life.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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She's not kidding Amy. In the old MMM forum there was a group of people that took pleasure in blaming and bashing the locals.
When the bashing got too out of hand or named locals were being blamed the moderator Helena would send them to the TOT (Time out tent). Bob the bartender would serve up virtual drinks in the tent. One person did such a good job of bashing that she would happily go to the tot before being asked by moderator. She continues to this day when she gets a chance and recently stated she stands behind everything she says.
It was a game from the beginning, by the very ones that claimed they were searching for what happened to Maura, at the expense of the the people of NH.
Hope that this will help everyone understand why some feel the way they do.
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