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mcsmom wrote:

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I tend to rely on plain old common sense. Budget demands for a victim advocate in 2009 was about 30k yearly. Ya think the state of NH provides that kind of assistance to prime suspects????
And thats just one example.....

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Snowy wrote:

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on the flip side, is a family and are their representatives entitled to select and target a POI from the local community in NH, even if "everyone is entitled to their opinions"?

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Snowy wrote:

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on the flip side, is a family and are their representatives entitled to select and target a POI from the local community in NH, even if "everyone is entitled to their opinions"?

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Opinion has nothing to do with it. LE represents Maura. They are the ones investigating this case. So if there is a person of interest it has nothing to do with family or any one else. It has to do with what LE has found out during there investigation.

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Snowy wrote:

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sure; if it is required by law.

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Just me--paris wrote:

<quoted text>Just saw this, thanks, had a friend at the door offering me a sandwich of all things.....
Thank you for this great and important post. I like it because it explains alot, and better than what I could do, that's for sure.
I feel bad they didn't start looking for Maura too. But they did on the night of the crash. SBD got his 4 wheeler out and drove around, and CS smith did too. No sign of her though. But just when and who saw ppl walking anyway? It's been said also that some were conming home from a town meeting and did some sort of looking that night as well. It BUGS ME that we are just now being told a couple of people were seen walking. BUT, if either of those two people were West of the accident, I can see the logic.
24 hours is the usual amount of time in most cases to wait for a missing person to show up somewhere. 36 minus 24 equals 12. So, I can't fault them that the extra time was too late in the day to get a dog and the right light. Also, going up into helicopters was good. They did a good long search and saw nothing but animal tracks. Ans a couple live animals, while looking. The thing to me is, was the snow as hard as a rock in NH that week? I don't think you can see footprints when you're walking on hard snow, and or ice. I've gone hunting and shooting in winter. True Minnesotan, I also icefish, usually in ppls icehouse.(don't like the damp cold), but this year I've had to b/c of the unsafe ice. It's not nearly frozen enough to be safe.

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mcsmom wrote:

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I don't recall a laptop either.

Jenkins wrote:

Umm I wasn't talking about him having pornos, if he's wants to that's his business, I was referring to the fact that high school year book photos of his distant cousins were found in the porno, which is fucking gross If u think about the implications of it.
Sooo weird!

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Bumping for Maura wrote:

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findmaura,
Yes, I believe that NH LE did in fact turn down the FBI assisting on the case.

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amy researches wrote:

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Now I'm curious. Do you have knowledge that this is the case in NH?

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Advocate wrote:

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Not trying to argue with you here, but seriously all I've ever seen was "computer" with no indication whether that meant a desktop computer or a laptop. I do think you are the first to clarify "laptop". It does make a little bit of difference to know it was a laptop rather than a desktop, because then I wonder why she didn't take it with her ... not because of the memories it might contain, but because it's darn useful and certainly portable.

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Snowy wrote:

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no, unfortunately, i don't have knowledge about advocacy in the NH court system.
nothing comes up too easily in a google search.
here's a related article....can't draw any conclusions about whether he ever was or is a POI; none have ever been officially named.
http://articles.boston.com/2005-12-29/news/29...

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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How did Renner find that information? Did he search his residents?

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Just me--paris wrote:

I wondered also if they could have possibly had his cellphone number. Surely Freddy would have thought to tell them, if you're clling for "dad", you'll have to call a different number.
Sorry for the rambed thoughts, I'm not well.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>There has never been anything stating that SBD got in a 4 wheeler and went out driving looking for Maura. He stated that he went out looking for Maura. Never stated what kind of vehicle he was in. The only vehicles in SBDs yard were 2 buses and a car. PIs were told before the 2006 search what witnesses had said about seeing some one walking. Remember it is LE and private investigators investigating this case. They are the ones investigating and it is them that info should be reported to first. Not a public forum. Sorry but the ones whom are going to solve this case are the ones investigating it and not one whom is posting on a public forum.

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amy researches wrote:

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Thank you. I only did a brief search, but here is what I was able to find:
http://www.co.grafton.nh.us/departments/attor...
http://doj.nh.gov/criminal/victim-assistance/...
http://law.lclark.edu/live/files/4964-new-ham...
Dunno if the last would apply, but maybe? ""Victim" also includes ... immediate family of a homicide victim."
Maybe some of the forum's more experienced legal minds can interpret.:-)

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Snowy wrote:

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helpful, thank you.
do you have an opinion as to whether FM would be assigned a court advocate if he was regarded, but it was not officially announced, that he was a POI?
from boston.com linked above:
"Fred Murray, however, has been highly critical of police, and he met with Governor John Lynch earlier this year to ask for his help in getting records of the investigation. Now, he has sued Lynch, Attorney General Kelly Ayotte, State Police, and other law enforcement agencies,..."
"The case continues to be pursued vigorously," she said.''Mr. Murray's had frequent contact with both my office and members of the State Police. In fact, I personally met with him along with lead investigators of the State Police last spring, and he was assigned a victim's witness advocate from my office."
suggests to me FM was assigned as advocate to assist him in interacting with authorities, without mention of his status as subject or person of interest.

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Snowy wrote:

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sorry, i don't understand your question.
i am actually aware of the length of your posting history.
my point, better stated, is that you will recall Mason's direct appeal to FM across two forums for him to answer questions about his availability to LE in the immediate aftermath of her disappearance.
this family's refusal to provide accurate information about their loved one to the public while simultaneously appealing for help in "finding" MM, and all the while pushing away from those who stepped up to assist, represents an unusual disconnect.
the impression to some observers, then, is that they are revealing little, and perhaps hiding much. it is understandable to choose privacy, but these conversations are still encouraged by "family" and driven by their representatives.

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findmaura wrote:

Imho I think the paragraphs below speak volumes on the location of the POI(S)
On cross-examination Timothy Ervin pushes Sgt. Landry to reveal whether or not there is a person of interest in the case and Ms. Smith objects:
Ms. Smith: I'm concerned about that, because, again, this is, to the extent this is a small community, the people know... the people, the identity of those people is fairly well known."