Maura Murray

Lol that's a good, and funny, point about the reeder the size of a newspaper.
Your right that from inside, it's probably unlikely she could see a cigarette burning, unless she had the lights off and even still probably not.
Is that why the cell phone light has just alays been assumed?
It appears to be a safe assumption.

Jenkins wrote:

... I find it interesting that thy felt the need to break into her car. It's been said repeatedly that the car was locked when LE arrived. So who Jimmied the car open and why?
They didn't get a search warrant til the next day so at that point they had no business opening her car door. I wonde why they felt the need.

If in fact they did jimmie the door open, then I wonder whether they were seeing the red liquid splashed around and were concerned that it might be blood. Seems like a concern like that would be "cause" enough to allow them to enter the vehicle without a warrant.

I guess your right there's no way u can say for sure all that damage took place at that accident, but there's absolutely no evidence saying that car had ever crashed before that night. Some people think maybe vasi but that's another topic altogether.

I'm not saying it's some big huge, multi-agency conspiracy reaching to the highest levels of government or anythin like that. I'm saying Its not a real conspiracy, more like a couple cops who don't want to admit there's a murder they can't solve on their watch unless they absolutely have to. I'm not saying they like kno where Maura's body is and there's this huge conspiracy. I'm just saying that from watching there actions right from the start it would appear that they thought something bad happened to her.

Nh isn't like ma and Ct where there's cops all over the place. People slide off of back roads all the time. Most of the time you candrive away because snowbanks don't do very much damage but when you can't there's absolutely no reason why you have to stay with the car and wait for the cops. Quite the contrary. It's the middle of Nh, you have no idea where the cops are and it could take over an hour for them to get there, that's if there's even cell service to call em. If you didn't do damage to any property there is no reason to wait in te freezing cold so you can tell a cop what happened. It is not required a all, wtf do u need the cops for? To tell them the story kf your accident? I'm originally from Ct and I kno that in cf theres this assumption that u need to wait for the cops for the slightest fender bender, which is ridiculous. People in Nh r much more self reliant. Yes it is common practice to leave the scene if your car is stuck. Peole hitch rides back to town all the time and call a tow truck from the comfort of their house. There is absolutely no need for LE to be involved or to stay on the scene, most people in Nh still believe "live free or die", you don't need cops involved for every car that slides odd the rd and if they were the cops would go broke.
Actually according to lt scarinza it is common practice for people to leave there cars on the side of the rd & he does mention drunk people wanting to leave the car or obvious reasons. Which is certainly a reason Maura wanted to get the hell outta there.

Generally in Nh if a car is in the side of the rd and a cop comes they will check the immediate area and make sure the driver isn't hurt near by and then move on, how long can this really take unless you think it's something more serious? How long can it really take to check out the scene and call a row truck? He sent the ems away after 6 min so he knew no one was injured nearby.
Smith must have thought Something relatively serious went on that night to warrant the length of time he spent on the scene. Then, It would appear that before he spoke to the family someone ordered him to play it down and pretend he thought it was an older man driving the car. Is that a big giant conspiracy? Absolutely not
Is that the kind of shit cops pull all the time? yes. Nobody wants to admit they aren't good at their job, nobody wants to admit there's a killer on the loose they can't catch. I can see the conversation: sgt. smith- it's looked like the car was staged and wine was splashed all over the roof, seats and doors and things were strewn all over indicating there was a struggle. It didn't look right, & a neighbor told us about a suspicious red truck in the area, we pulled over 3 red trucks late night but found nothing. I have no suspect but I think she was abducted.
Then his Lt. Responds- There is no direct evidence of foul play, you have no proof she was abducted, she could just be a runaway. We aren't gonna say we think she got abducted but you should investigate it as such. & make sure when the family comes they dint think you suspected foul play that night, we don't want a media shitstorm here.
That is obviously speculation but realistic, conversations like that happen all the time behind the scenes of LE, but this doesn't make it some big conspiracy. & we have one definite 100% lie told to the family so we know they aren't averse to lying.

Advocate wrote:

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If in fact they did jimmie the door open, then I wonder whether they were seeing the red liquid splashed around and were concerned that it might be blood. Seems like a concern like that would be "cause" enough to allow them to enter the vehicle without a warrant.

Most definitely, if they thought it could've been blood then they def should've opened that door.
I wonder if smith thouggjt the wine all over the car was evidence of a struggle. The wine was ina coke bottle, which isn't that easy to splash out of. It's said that wine was in the sears, the ceiling and the seats. Well if it was spilt durin the crash shouldn't it have all spilled in one direction? Seems like there was wine all over the car from reports, I wish there was pics of the red stains somewhere

AcidHouseMartin wrote:

<quoted text>Either we're talking a reefer the size of a rolled up newspaper...

I went looking for a Guinness World Record, but instead found this:

http://weednomo.wordpress.com/2007/03/18/worl...

Jenkins wrote:

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Most definitely, if they thought it could've been blood then they def should've opened that door.
I wonder if smith thouggjt the wine all over the car was evidence of a struggle. The wine was ina coke bottle, which isn't that easy to splash out of. It's said that wine was in the sears, the ceiling and the seats. Well if it was spilt durin the crash shouldn't it have all spilled in one direction? Seems like there was wine all over the car from reports, I wish there was pics of the red stains somewhere

might want to check your sources of the liquid in the coke bottle. Not sure it was wine.

hannah_b wrote:

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According to Renner she wasn´t doing any school work related to maternity etc, but who knows. That´s why I wrote alleged. Official release, are you joking... hardly anything in this case is.

hmmm......she wouldn't drive her vehicle to clinicals but she wasn't doing clinicals....its awfully hard to get a nursing degree without any clinicals.....in fact, impossible. Not saying it's correct, but in a previous forum the actual clinical rotation site was named.

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text>But wasn't she also doing a clinical in nursing school dealing with maternity and early natal care at that time? that could very much account for researching the sites that were logged on her computer. And really, where did that information originate from? Was it an official release of information or one of those things that has taken on a life of its own?

I agree. You've been following this, participated in the previous forums and have a local and professional interest/connection to Maura's disappearance.

If you were planning to disappear forever wouldn't you erase the searches on your computer if they were NOT for work-related research? And who told a blogger/writer from Ohio about the so-called "big reveal" information from Maura's hard drive? That information is part of an ongoing police investigation and I doubt the actual results have been released or leaked.

If you buy people a few beers in a local bar, it's amazing the yarns they can spin.

Laurie Anne (Mehrman) Murray, age 61, formerly of Weymouth, entered into eternal life on Monday, May 4, 2009 after a long illness. Laurie was born in Quincy, was raised in Weymouth and has lived in Hanson for over 30 years. She attended Weymouth schools and graduated from the Shepard Gill Nursing School at Mass General Hospital in Boston. Laurie was a nurse at Samuel Marcus Nursing Home in Weymouth. Prior to that, She worked at other nursing homes and hospitals on the south shore. Beloved daughter of Ruth C.(Sturrock) Mehrman of Weymouth and the late Frederick F. Mehrman. Devoted mother of Frederick Murray of Hanson, Kathleen Carpenter of Hanover, Julie Thompson of Abingdon, Maryland, Maura Murray of Hanson and Kurtis Murray of Hanson. Beloved sister of Janis R. Panttila of Weymouth and the late Frederick F. Mehrman Jr. A private Funeral Service was held on Wednesday, May 6 at the Clancy-Lucid Funeral Home, Weymouth. If desired, donations may be made in her memory to the American Cancer Society , 5 Manley St., West Bridgewater, MA 02379.
Beth Ahlstedt (Pembroke, MA )
Kristen Anderson (Whitman, MA )
Ruth Mewis (Halifax, MA )
Alisa Daniels (Easton, MA )
Glenn Mehrman (Sagamore Beach, MA )
JEANNE GIAMMALVO (WEYMOUTH, MA )
Joan Mewis Shepherd (Kingston, MA )
Joanne Marini & Family (Providence, RI )
Bob Mewis and Family (Hanson, MA )

Does anyone think she maybe worked at the same hospital as her Mum did?

How does her sisters name supposed to be like Katherline or Kathleen?

I've always wondered why Sharon would have been shown an area where Maura's car door made "a shelf" in the snow where her drivers door was opened, in an area where the snow banks were "head high". IMO this spot would have been much closer to the actual curve where the snowplow attempts to keep the curve less dangerous by pushing back the snow quite a distance away from the road.

Westmans later pointed out to family where Maura's car actually was, much further east.

I've been reading Mr. Renners blog and all about Maura Murrays' stealing the credit cards so I hate to say it but maybe she really was using drugs.

Someone else said on Mr. Renners blog AnonymousFeb 1, 2012 10:17 PM
I have to say, I didn't want to post it, but that was the first thing I thought of when I saw that picture - methamphetamine. The look is there. I hope that's not the case, but it would add a very new dimension to the story.
Also there are probably meth labs up in NH so do you think she was one of them?

Also if her Mum died of cancer maybe Maura used her pain meds and got hooked? I'm just thinking here out loud.

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text>might want to check your sources of the liquid in the coke bottle. Not sure it was wine.

what do you think the liquid was l4m ? Police report said it smelled like alcohol ? Seagrams possibly? We still don't know what was meant by seagrams.

I was reading this from Mr Renners blog and it just makes me think harder about why a Dad would not let him help find her? That's what everyone says in the comments because her friends were really important to her. i don't know but maybe he has his reasons. It's really sad.

Saturday, November 5, 2011
Fred Tells Maura's Friends to Keep Quiet.
When Maura lived in Hanson, she was part of a popular group of girls that stuck together through thick and thin. Katie Jones. Carly Muise. Erin Devine. Andrea Connelly. Laura Rideout. Leader of the gang was Liz Drewniak (pictured above), who ran with Maura and would later go on to become valedictorian.

About a year ago, I started reaching out to these women but got no response. When I visited Hanson earlier this year, I spoke to Drewniak's mother at length, who provided me with a lot of background on Maura. Connelly's mother, as well, was much help. But the women, themselves, still did not return messages. I later found out why.

Turns out Fred Murray spoke to Liz Drewniak and said they should not talk to me. He, again, reiterated that he did not want a book or more publicity about his daughter's disappearance. For misguided, though understandable, reasons Liz then told her friends to keep quiet.

Hopefully they change their mind before the book goes to print."

If Maura Murray went to a party in her dorm she had to be drinking right? What else do you do except drink at a party on Saturday nights? Then she had an accident with her Dad's car. I really think one of her friends would know about what happened and I don't know why her Dad is telling them to shutup.

I am sorry but because if she was drinking and then drove his car right into a guardrail and wrecked it and THEN went to visit him in his motel room, I'll bet he was very angry with her. Who is the last person to see Maura alive before she left her college?

mcsmom wrote:

I've always wondered why Sharon would have been shown an area where Maura's car door made "a shelf" in the snow where her drivers door was opened, in an area where the snow banks were "head high". IMO this spot would have been much closer to the actual curve where the snowplow attempts to keep the curve less dangerous by pushing back the snow quite a distance away from the road. Westmans later pointed out to family where Maura's car actually was, much further east.

Based on the information you've heard and read over the years, do you think that some long-time follows of this case believe:

1) The Saturn was further along the road and was pointed in an easterly direction in the eastbound lane?

2) The damage to the bumper was as a result of being cut off and making contact with another car/truck on Rt 112 between WB and BHR?

3) Someone might have abducted Maura from her car (while inside or standing outside)?

4) There wasn't an accident based on car malfunction or driver error?

5) Any ostensible discrepancies in log times might be because LE initially thought the car was abandoned by a possible DUI driver and didn't take the matter seriously?

jwb wrote:

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what do you think the liquid was l4m ? Police report said it smelled like alcohol ? Seagrams possibly? We still don't know what was meant by seagrams.

i think it was wine if it was red. Seagrams isn't red and the police said it smelled like booze.