Maura Murray

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Jenkins wrote:

I can see the conversation: sgt. smith- it's looked like the car was staged and wine was splashed all over the roof, seats and doors and things were strewn all over indicating there was a struggle. It didn't look right, & a neighbor told us about a suspicious red truck in the area, we pulled over 3 red trucks late night but found nothing. I have no suspect but I think she was abducted.
Then his Lt. Responds- There is no direct evidence of foul play, you have no proof she was abducted, she could just be a runaway. We aren't gonna say we think she got abducted but you should investigate it as such. & make sure when the family comes they dint think you suspected foul play that night, we don't want a media shitstorm here.
That is obviously speculation but realistic, conversations like that happen all the time behind the scenes of LE, but this doesn't make it some big conspiracy. & we have one definite 100% lie told to the family so we know they aren't averse to lying.

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I've always wondered why Sharon would have been shown an area where Maura's car door made "a shelf" in the snow where her drivers door was opened, in an area where the snow banks were "head high". IMO this spot would have been much closer to the actual curve where the snowplow attempts to keep the curve less dangerous by pushing back the snow quite a distance away from the road.
Westmans later pointed out to family where Maura's car actually was, much further east.

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Bart S wrote:

This girl was in some kind of BIG trouble. Maybe she wanted to kill herself very bad because she messed everything up at school and she knew her Dad would be really angry if she got thrown out again.

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jwb wrote:

I wonder if that is why the marottes saw Maura backing up to park parrallel. maybe she couldn't open the door at first so she moved her car so she could, but this would mean that her car was still running so why not just drive off?

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Frostman wrote:

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Based on the information you've heard and read over the years, do you think that some long-time follows of this case believe:
1) The Saturn was further along the road and was pointed in an easterly direction in the eastbound lane?
2) The damage to the bumper was as a result of being cut off and making contact with another car/truck on Rt 112 between WB and BHR?
3) Someone might have abducted Maura from her car (while inside or standing outside)?
4) There wasn't an accident based on car malfunction or driver error?
5) Any ostensible discrepancies in log times might be because LE initially thought the car was abandoned by a possible DUI driver and didn't take the matter seriously?

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jwb wrote:

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I have never heard that before MCSMOM. Who originally showed Sharon the first location? You really wouldn't need a high bank for the bottom of the door to hit into the snow and cause the shelf as you say.Looking at my compact car in the driveway, the bottom of the door is approx 1' from the ground.

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I agree even a small bank would have caused a shelf, but Sharon said the snowbank where the door was opened was head level. I don't know who showed Sharon the location, but I imagine someone of authority?

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Jenkins wrote:

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Wasn't that drawn up by lavoie the tow truck driver? Thats what I thought.
Honestly it looks like a much more accurate depiction of the accident to me.
I find it interesting that it didnt come from LE, it came from a private citizen. This just shows the cops were either idiots or covering something up. Based on how I've seen Nh LE handle things I tend to lean toward the side of them being idiots but it does seem rather odd.
How could smith possibly have missed the fact that she clipped the snowbank on the inside of the corner? This means his accident report was beyond wrong.
Most interesting thing I find about this telling of the accident is the fact that he said it appeared as if the driver had lost power and was trying to regain control when she hit the left snowbank.
Another thing I think can be shown is the fact that the snowbank did not cause the big dent above her driver side headlight. So we r supposed to believe thatthe snowbank was so soft that she could plow straight through it, uet frozen rock solid enough to put a sharp dent like that into her car? I don't think so.
It obviously wasn't even hard enough to cause damage to her bumper.
One more point Is that lavoie specifically says that a rag in the tailpipe is a good way to disable a car, but everyone on here has just written that off as impossibly because they say a rag can't stay in a tailpipe.
I was talkin to one of my boys who is a mechanic about this and he said you definitely can get a rag to stay in a tailpipe and disable a car with it. He said this is an old school way of testing for exhaust leaks and there is a particular way of folding/rolling up a shop rag to make it so it will stay in there.
But overall I think that dswcription of the accident makes sense, she lost power and with it power steering, then while trying to regain control of her car she clipped the inside of the corner, causing her to spinning end up ass end into the other snowbank

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jwb wrote:

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Head level might have been down by the bend near old peters road and to me if you are going to struggle with the curve that would be a natural spot to crash . IMO

mcsmom wrote:

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Exactly, I agree, the area where the snowplow creates higher snow banks, right at the curve.
IMO, the sheared off snowbank in front of Westmans house has a higher chance of it being someone who came upon Maura's car at the curve and swerved to avoid it.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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The timeline is very frustrating. Family won't say much about Maura's past. Anything that has been brought up from her past hasn't been positive for her. Your right her father would be pissed. Any father would be pissed. You have to wonder what else might have happened? Are they hiding a key motive that would lead to her disappearance?

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findtheanswers wrote:

would't you think if someone put a rag in the tail pipe it was cause carbon monoxide poisoning in the car ?

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findtheanswers wrote:

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Hi Jenkins , wouldn't you think that putting a rag in the exaust pipe would cause carbon monoxide poisoning inside the car ?