Maura Murray

Bart S wrote:

<quoted text>There are so many more people that deserve our help like the veterans. I've been reading and you guys are just shooting in the dark. Pity the fools.

Bart only speaking for myself, but I do respect veterans and agree that some are also in need of help. I have had a close friend take his life after he returned. He got involved into drugs and then took his life. Have you served Bart? If so thank you for doing so

Det Columbo wrote:

Prescott Valley Arizona is very nice.
John

Went to a wedding at a golf club in Prescott last year actually. That area is nice, We're in Surprise, AZ--not too far. But when we move here permanently, I plan to sell the house in Mountain Lakes and buy in Prescott.

Bart S wrote:

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No its not MILD. Your wrong.

Unless she is the one who hit vasi, everything she did is pretty minor by today's standards.

Bart S wrote:

<quoted text>There are so many more people that deserve our help like the veterans. I've been reading and you guys are just shooting in the dark. Pity the fools.

Bart s, I wondered when we were going to arrive at the core of where you are coming from. I support all veterans for sure.

So quiet.....Where have the "ones with the agenda" dissapeared to?Odd.

findmaura wrote:

So quiet.....Where have the "ones with the agenda" dissapeared to?Odd.

Funny. I was thinking that they are the only ones left on here.

Bill

AcidHouseMartin wrote:

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For the benefit of those of us willing to consider that Maura or her car may have been involved in causing Vasi's awful injuries could you explain what evidence exists for this and why the police would either ignore such involvement or elect not to mention it publically?
Genuine question asked open-mindedly and with interest.

Any and all evidence for her hitting vasi is strictly circumstantial, unless u consider the dent on the Saturn physical evidence, but since there's nothing that fully connects this the fact that dent is consistent with hitting someone is still circumstantial.

Vasi was hit around 12:30-1am. Shortly after 1 am Maura received a phone call that she was visibly upset from.
She was actually beyond upset, her supervisor describes her ad basically catatonic. She said that she witnessed maira crying, staring off into space and not even noticing when 2 separate people entered the dorm without signing in. Everyone who enters is supposed to sign in. When the supervisor came upon Maura Sn asked what was up all she could say was "my sister,my sister". She was so bad that the supervisor had to ask her to leave work and walked her most o the way home, and told Maura she should call the school psychologist or something like that. She also told maira she shouldn't b alone but Maura told her that she had roomates, which I find interesting.
She said her sister, her sister reported talking to her earlier in the bite, about 10:30 and reported nothin odd in the conversation. Last I heard LE says that the call came from her sister.
But early on a UMass Leo was quoted saying they traced that late-night call to another phone that was on campus but they have no way of knowing for sure who was on the other end. That means someone called from one of the phones that's in the common area of a dorm that anyone can use to call anywhere on campus, or off.
That's a pretty strong circumstantial case, that je was hit and not a half hour later she got a call that sent her off the deep end. It would appear that call was the catalyst for some bizarre behavior, there's no reports of odd behavior before that. Doesn't mean there wasn't though.

People say wait, this couldn't have happened, she was at work, it's impossible but it is theoretically possible. Back on the old forums it was reported by family, and treated as definite fact that Maura would have to walk 10-15 min just to get to her car, and then drive 10m to get to where he was hit, so that would mean that at absolute minimum she wouldve been gone for over 20min. The supervisor did rounds every 15-20m so that would make it impossible for her to do it in time.
But that is not true at all. First off all there was a parking lot her sticker would've been good for that's a 5m walk max. Also the drive fr where she was to where he was hit is about 2min. But in reality she could've parked right outside the dorm. Every UMass building has guest spots and 15min spots that at night u can just park in. If she drove to work,she would've parked there. Anyone familiar w campus would. Also at nite u can park in any lot as long as u don't park overbite. If she was parked there she could've gotten in her car, hit vasi and ran back to work within 5 minutes.
There's a strong circumstantial case and the family lying about how long it would take for her to get there certainly doesn't look good in my eyes. I like to think she didn't hit him, but I also find it hard to write off these coincidences. That seems like something that def could account for her behavior the day she dossapeared and it kind of makes a few things make sense.
Anyone who says it definitely didn't happen is bullshitting...nobody could know that for sure knowing what we know.

Interesting comment bill, I was wondering who u think has an agenda and what their agenda might be, out of people that have been posting in the past few days.
This is an honest question, I'm truly wondering what's your take on all this talk of "agendas" & who u think might have one, and to what end.
Thanks, I was wondering what happened to u. U didn't post for a while, no need to explain I saw yur explanation last week, just sayin

Bart S wrote:

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At your service bro. There is life off of Topix and REAL freakin life happening off this b oard. People are wasting their time here. I guess these guys have no business of there own to take care of. LOL

Oh Bart, Bart ... here's the thing: we're all so cool and swift that we can get our other business taken care of in just an hour or two a day, and that's with one hand tied behind our backs! Leaves us plenty of time to care about others whether on this particular board or elsewhere including real life.

Your mileage must vary.

[QUOTE who="AcidHouseMartin... While I agree it's unlikely a major clue to Maura's fate is going to come from Topix (and I concur: the suggestion that it might is arrogant), I do think there's a purpose in discussing the case and your rejection of a stalking possibility without consideration is no different from asserting a theory without evidence.[/QUOTE]

Not to be contrary, but in fact I feel quite sure the answer to what happened to Maura IS here on Topix. Either it is one of the theories posted, or a combination of theories and ideas that have been posted, but I believe it is definitely here. We just don't know which one or combination it is.

looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text>Went to a wedding at a golf club in Prescott last year actually. That area is nice, We're in Surprise, AZ--not too far. But when we move here permanently, I plan to sell the house in Mountain Lakes and buy in Prescott.

You're not far from me in either Prescott or Surprise -- we ought to grab a cup of coffee sometime!

Thanks for presenting all that in such a clear fashion, Jenkins.

Clearly, there is a possibility of some involvement with Vasi's injuries and, certainly, this does suggest something major was happening in Maura's life.

Am I right in thinking her sister wrote off the episode as being just a ploy for Maura to 'get out of work'? If so, it sounds extreme when most people would just feign sickness.

The grand gesture of driving to dad's hotel in the middle of the night sounds a bit attention seeking and OTT too.

If Maura was that much of a drama queen, is it possible her family harboured a genuine belief at the start that she staged the whole thing as a me,me,me exercise and introduced the whole stranger abduction story in the hope she'd hear it, realise their fears and come on home?

I mean, if the girl was that prone to sweeeping hissy fits and cries for attention, pandering to her might just work.

I just can't get beyond why the family are so adament that her past plays no part in her fate. Either it did and they're protecting her or they must surely have some evidence of her vanishing being a random crime carried out by a stranger?

What you describe, the packing up of her room and the reported death in the family, plus drive away to the mountains, is too much in combination to be entirely coincidental so why would her family insist otherwise?

Advocate wrote:

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You're not far from me in either Prescott or Surprise -- we ought to grab a cup of coffee sometime!

That's too funny.....I won't be out there again until June probably. Of ocurse, if you're ever in NH or RI, the same offer stands.

AcidHouseMartin wrote:

Thanks for presenting all that in such a clear fashion, Jenkins.
Clearly, there is a possibility of some involvement with Vasi's injuries and, certainly, this does suggest something major was happening in Maura's life.
Am I right in thinking her sister wrote off the episode as being just a ploy for Maura to 'get out of work'? If so, it sounds extreme when most people would just feign sickness.
The grand gesture of driving to dad's hotel in the middle of the night sounds a bit attention seeking and OTT too.
If Maura was that much of a drama queen, is it possible her family harboured a genuine belief at the start that she staged the whole thing as a me,me,me exercise and introduced the whole stranger abduction story in the hope she'd hear it, realise their fears and come on home?
I mean, if the girl was that prone to sweeeping hissy fits and cries for attention, pandering to her might just work.
I just can't get beyond why the family are so adament that her past plays no part in her fate. Either it did and they're protecting her or they must surely have some evidence of her vanishing being a random crime carried out by a stranger?
What you describe, the packing up of her room and the reported death in the family, plus drive away to the mountains, is too much in combination to be entirely coincidental so why would her family insist otherwise?

I do agree with you in regards of the family. The family has no problem blaming others or pointing the finger so if something happened at UMASS before her disappearance I believe they would bring the past up if it wasn't something negative about Maura.

Please keep in mind I don't think Vasi was ever officially confirmed to be hit by a car. So any theories about the hit and run are very circumstantial at best.

In the state of MASS is the owner of the car responsible for damage or is it the driver. Does any one know if MASS is a vicarious liability state?

Bart S wrote:

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Are you a shrink? Do you know Maura? Does JWB mean Just Wasting Brainspace? Ha!! It's really funny how you come on here thinking your such an important investigator. Oh yo let me email James over there. Somebody needs a life.

It is going to be difficult for people to side with your opinions and theories when you type something like this.

If JWB was assisting my family in a search no matter in what capacity it would greatly be appreciated. To mock that is wrong.

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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It is going to be difficult for people to side with your opinions and theories when you type something like this.
If JWB was assisting my family in a search no matter in what capacity it would greatly be appreciated. To mock that is wrong.

Thanks Lighthouse-we would all hope that if we have a loved one missing that people would still care enough to keep the drumbeat going.

Email to helena from K Mayotte Mauras supervisor

"I did reply to the comments on the website, and you can find my full posting on today's date. But basically I wrote that Maura could not have possibly hit Petrit. She would not have been able to leave the building mid-shift and traveled to the hit and run accident scene. I explained that a supervisor checks in with her every 30 minutes, and it would have taken probably more time than that to walk to her car and drive downtown. Also if she left the door behind her would have locked, and she would not have been able to get back into the dorm. Of course with anything its a possibility, but I do not believe it was physically possible for Maura to hit him."

jwb wrote:

Email to helena from K Mayotte Mauras supervisor
"I did reply to the comments on the website, and you can find my full posting on today's date. But basically I wrote that Maura could not have possibly hit Petrit. She would not have been able to leave the building mid-shift and traveled to the hit and run accident scene. I explained that a supervisor checks in with her every 30 minutes, and it would have taken probably more time than that to walk to her car and drive downtown. Also if she left the door behind her would have locked, and she would not have been able to get back into the dorm. Of course with anything its a possibility, but I do not believe it was physically possible for Maura to hit him."

Keep in mind that there is a tremendous amount of guilt to hide in a hit and run accident especially if you don't know if the victim is going to make it or not.

The guilt would have been so hard for her to dismiss. Any reasonable person would have been acting visable strange.

What about the Red Truck on Bradley Hill Lane beside the road with the pass. side door open.?

John

Maura could not have left work and hit Vasi....but IF She let someone use Her car could they have been the one behind the wheel.

Just thinking.

John