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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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I have never seen a case where local people are against someone that lost their Child! ever seen it before? Does it make sense to you know matter what the dad said ? he only said local scumbag right? we all have local scumbags ? I think the ones that post here that say local this and that are not really locals but are temp transplants from other states that have second homes and they don't get it,
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citigirl
Brockton, MA
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Jenkins wrote: I think what citi was trying to show was that all circuits of 911 were busy when the sbd was trying to call.
Which doesn't match the logs.
Mauras accident was the first thing in the logs in over an hour.
But how could that be? There's so many people calling 911 that te circuits were busy for about 10 mins, he actually had to call a dispatch to get through, but none of those calls show up in the log?
It's looking more and more obvious that the log was doctored, or at least we aren't seeing everything that was originally in the logs.
Damn, I would love to see what the real logs look like.
I wonder if the first accident would be found there, something like "car slid off the road" "party left in private vehicle"
Idk, but that gap for over an hour before her call is in there just doesnt seem right. & we have some evidence showing it is not correct. You are correct. I copied the call from the GCSD log to show you what was said in the GCSD log concerning the SBDs call on that night. If the circuits were busy SBDs calls would not show up or be logged in because he never actually got through to anyone. Do I think the logs were doctored? Yes but not concerning the SBDs call. There is nothing in the log about a car that slid off the road and the party left in a private vehicle. I have the log from Feb.9,2004. There is a call to Petticoat Ln. at 1808 that evening. According to the log CS arrived at 18:10:16 and cleared at 18:25:24. The next call was for Mauras accident which was called in at 1927. I do have the dispatch time,enroute,arrived and cleared time if you want me to post it I will.
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Jenkins
United States
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I agree that the sbd's call wasn't doctored either, I was more referring to the calls that were happening when he was trying to call. Really I guess the point is that judging by the call volume, it would appear that LE was rather busy that night, but this is not reflected in the logs. If I'm reading the logs wrong and gaps r common, then I would love to know exactly how it should be read & why those calls don't show up in the log. I'm certainly no expert at interpreting LE logs, the whole thing is confusing to me actually. But there is that clear as day gap of a little over an hour before maura's crash. I believe the real logs have calls in that time. I also believe that one of those calls pertain to a car slid off the road, driver left in private vehicle
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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citigirl wrote: <quoted text>You are correct. I copied the call from the GCSD log to show you what was said in the GCSD log concerning the SBDs call on that night. If the circuits were busy SBDs calls would not show up or be logged in because he never actually got through to anyone. Do I think the logs were doctored? Yes but not concerning the SBDs call. There is nothing in the log about a car that slid off the road and the party left in a private vehicle. I have the log from Feb.9,2004. There is a call to Petticoat Ln. at 1808 that evening. According to the log CS arrived at 18:10:16 and cleared at 18:25:24. The next call was for Mauras accident which was called in at 1927. I do have the dispatch time,enroute,arrived and cleared time if you want me to post it I will. citigirl are you saying the 911 lines were busy or HPD were busy? thank you
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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The prob I see is the timeline with the NHSP
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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Jenkins , what do you think about the covered bridge past the stage coach shop? No body has talked about that as a cross over spot- But you would think she would have stopped at the store for help right?
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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feb 2004 was one of the coldest on records but really why would any one want to cross the river? If Rf sighting was correct(4-5 miles) then the property is rather flat and she could have gone up old logging roads or there is a sort bridge after 116 east that goes for miles and not sure of the name of the road as there are only a few homes on it. i am not sure if it is even partially plowed
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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Jenkins
United States
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It's my feeling that these people don't neccessarily even know who they're covering for, I think it's more of a case of denial rather than specific covering up, although some posts by people On here r making me start to doubt that assessment. I've always felt these people just don't want to admit something like this can happen in their backyard, or their tranquil vacation spot. For some reason they'd rather just believe she was some idiot drunk girl from mass who got lost in the woods. I think it makes them feel better, because if u admit that she was killed, then u also have to admi there's a killer on the loose in their backyard. They'd rather believe that kind of stuff only happens in mass or Ct, not in Nh. Isn't that why they moved or vacation up there? To get away from stuff like this? It's crazy how much they will blatantly ignore rather to maintain their denial. Gotta say though, very interesting psychology at work here
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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So enough of the cross the river stuff- If she went west she could have crossed the bridge if she went east enough then then ther are multiple areas to cross Like Jenkins says - She is prob not local unless burried- that is my opinion and not jenkins actually
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Casey
Fort Mill, SC
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It was a dead zone for calls because of the location. The bus driver had to go home and call.(time laps) I wonder why he didn't have his cell phone with him. I would think that one would have a cell phone to know that area was a calling dead zone and being a bus driver you would carry one for emergency.I would like to know if the houses a cross the street were in a dead zone. I know that when I'm out in some areas like mountains, forest,ect. I have tried calling people and they don't get itor my message, right away and why was the bus driver out so late with the bus. Was this he's normal routine? Who report seeing a red truck? and Did Maura have MS?
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Jenkins
United States
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I dint think she necessarily would have stopped at the store for help, she must've figured that'd b the first place the cops would looks I think at that point her concern was not talkin to the cops. Also, it doesn't appear she was overly concerned with getting a ride. I would think that if she was alone that would b her #1 priority, to get a ride. I would also think that she would've been happy to c a school bus come along and offer assistance, a sbd can't b a murderer right? I wonder what sbd said to her that night. He describes having sleepless nights over this. Now if all he did was try to help then why the sleepless nights? I think that means one of 2 things. Either he was an asshole to her, just started threatening to call the cops on her; he probably feels like he's the one that scared her into a murderers truck. Or it means he saw her get abducted and is too scared to talk. Both of those r things that would Lead to sleepless nights, imo
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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Jenkins wrote: It's my feeling that these people don't neccessarily even know who they're covering for, I think it's more of a case of denial rather than specific covering up, although some posts by people On here r making me start to doubt that assessment.
I've always felt these people just don't want to admit something like this can happen in their backyard, or their tranquil vacation spot.
For some reason they'd rather just believe she was some idiot drunk girl from mass who got lost in the woods.
I think it makes them feel better, because if u admit that she was killed, then u also have to admi there's a killer on the loose in their backyard. They'd rather believe that kind of stuff only happens in mass or Ct, not in Nh. Isn't that why they moved or vacation up there? To get away from stuff like this?
It's crazy how much they will blatantly ignore rather to maintain their denial.
Gotta say though, very interesting psychology at work here Jenkins you got my drift about local vs non? That is an areA OF transients that might live there. It is an areaof second home owners.
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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sorry my typing stinks But Imeant to say that the area are non locals
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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Casey wrote: It was a dead zone for calls because of the location. The bus driver had to go home and call.(time laps) I wonder why he didn't have his cell phone with him. I would think that one would have a cell phone to know that area was a calling dead zone and being a bus driver you would carry one for emergency.I would like to know if the houses a cross the street were in a dead zone. I know that when I'm out in some areas like mountains, forest,ect. I have tried calling people and they don't get itor my message, right away and why was the bus driver out so late with the bus. Was this he's normal routine? Who report seeing a red truck? and Did Maura have MS? no cell coverage I know the area dude and it is for miles without coverage even now
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Dot
Tempe, AZ
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
I am sure your right. I wonder what people with open minds do think? Except, my notions though, aren't preconceived. They are the result of eight years of looking at this case. Sorting through an awful lot of bullshit to get to what is actually known. And not accepting every ridiculous fantasy that someone throws out. Looking at everything with a critical eye. Questioning, not just joining in with whatever fantasy that someone wants to throw out. You really need to work on your critical thought process. You are working off of things you accept as fact but don't even know if it happened. Apply some critical thinking. Start with what is basic in the case. Then move outwards from there. You will need to ask many more questions and really make fewer statements, because in the long run, you will look much less foolish.
Sorry. That's it for now. Maybe later tonight I might be back. Doing that should fill at least a week, though, I doubt you'll do it.
Bill You just think you know everything don't you?
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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Second home owners live in Mountain Lakes and that is were L$M says he lives.That area mostly belongs to second home owners. we all know that most of the folks that frequent Nh are Mass, ME ,Vt,RI RI very regional.
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The Wizard
United States
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Dot wrote: <quoted text>You just think you know everything don't you? DO NOT QUESTION the GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ!
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jwb
Lincoln, NH
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jwb wrote: Second home owners live in Mountain Lakes and that is were L$M says he lives.That area mostly belongs to second home owners. we all know that most of the folks that frequent Nh are Mass, ME ,Vt,RI RI very regional. wrong - you are the folks that continually cut people off because you are in a rush!!! Got it today from a mass plate while I was on my bike- No manners just rude and can't relax
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Casey
Fort Mill, SC
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
no cell coverage I know the area dude and it is for miles without coverage even now But it sounds like the bus driver didn't have far to go home were he could use a phone for help. Thats why I was wonder If the houses close to the wreck could get coverage. I could understand why she didn't want the police to know about the wreck. She may have not trusted the bus driver because he was a male.I have my own thoughts about what happend to her but I would like more questions answered.
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