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amy researches wrote:
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Hey Bill, I'm not feeling very creative tonight. So maybe you can lend me your decoder ring. You lending out money now? You lose a house or something? There seems to be some concern.
Jenkins, you ok buddy? LOL
Nice to see you back, Wowzer.
Nothing new to add, really. No new info or theories. Just wanted to say hi. Good grief. This place is crazytown. Worse than before, if that's possible.
Ok... seriously, though. Anyone heard any news on the Danby skull?
Hi Amy and thanks. Good to see you back too. Brave soul that you are. LOL
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Jenkins4real= beagle?

I'll bet the 4 g's he thinks bill doesn't have

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Jenkins wrote:
Jenkins4real= beagle?
I'll bet the 4 g's he thinks bill doesn't have
Care to dance with the dead?

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Jenkins wrote:
& wtf is up with this asshole beagle? It's blatantly obvious that Bart s, detective shtick and all these posts during the last 24 hrs made by beagle talking to himself.
Is this guy just insane or what? Why is je so
Obsessed with topix Franconia that he made a YouTube about everyone on here
Is it possible this guy had anything to do w maura's dissapearance? I find it unlikely
But I'm not exactly sure why it's so unlikely.
This guy is clearly unstable mentally, like seriously. He definitely has something wrong in the head, his obsession with Maura and her case is fucked up.
I find it interesting he was never on any forums until a few yrs ago, & then suddenly he's all over making crazy statements, the kind of statements that only someone who isn't all there would say.
Is it possible he actually abducted her?
He's from western Mass, same exact area Maura was living. Not entirely impossible that he had some sort of contact w maura before.
He's clearly interested in trying to torment the family, this is the kinda shit that only someone who is sick in the head would do.
Is he disappointed that he's never gotten credit for his crime? Is he possibly a serial killer? Or is he just mentally retarded and insane?
What's up with this guy?
Who's the other guy in his videos? The guy dressed as a construction worker, who's that his partner in crime? R they a kill team?
Has anybody looked into this guy for real? Anyone know if LE has? He certainly deserves a serious looking at, or at least to get the shit kicked out of him.
For the videos he's posted I've never seen anyone deserve a bigger ass-beating.
At the very least this guy is a piece of shit who likes to taunt families of missing girls, so he clearly has no conscience.
Someone like that yur not Gonna make him feel bad by anything u write so that's why I suggest multiple beatings is what he deserves. Not saying I'm gonna do that(as much as I want to), but that's clearly what he deserves. Some pain to match what he dishes out.
Anyone who comes online and talks to himself for a day, saying weird incoherent statements is just a straight weirdo.
No dance? Afraid I'm still decomposing? Concerned you'll get slime on your tux?

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I wonder, does anyone know what kind of car fred rented after Maura crashed his?
Something I never understood: what kind of accident forms did Maura have to pick up & fill out? I've never heard of this, has anyone ever heard of filling out your own accident reports?
Every time I've ever been involved in an accident the cops filled out the report. Then u have to pick it up to send to the insurance companies. Generally u can pick it up about 1-2 weeks after the accident and u have to pay a few dollars for it.
A couple if years ago my gf got in a minor accident driving my car after leaving class at umass. She was in Hadley actually at the same intersection Maura crashed at & I can tell u for a fact there was no accident reports she had to pick up or fill out. She had to go to the Hadley pd about a week later and pick up the accident report so I could send it to my insurance company.
I could see if your involved in a one car accident where there's no damage to anybody else's property & the cops aren't present. Then I would think u would have to pick up some sort of forms to fill out in order to make an insurance claim. But we know the cops were present bc they filled out an accident report. So why would she have to fill out her own forms? Obviously if LE makes an out accident report the insurance company won't need your report.
One other thing: in the accident report it states that she called fr a toe truck before the cop arrived. Meaning she had a cell phone on her. Since we know that the cell phone we all know about was left at her friends dorm room, that means she mist have had another phone on her. She must have had 2 cell phones, which would make sense considering her regular phones bill went to her bf's parents house every month
Good point about possibly having two phones. Was Maura driving, or someone else?It's been stated that they had a couple drinks with dinner. Took off and picked up the friend, and then went back to the brew pub, upstairs for more drinks. Then the sky blue (vodka/wine) drinks that were consumed at the party. Evidently Fred bought something in the store for himself as well. They all three went to the liquer store to pick out the wine coolers.(At least that's how I read it, that it was bottles with a vodka/wine base called skyblue)(After the party where there were lots of guys and gals) Perhaps knowing she was taking off in a few days, and, perhaps for good
someone from the party left ahead of her or just after her? Maybe she wanted to tell them she thought she could be expecting. Lots of maybes, but it's good to think back to those days before she left UMASS. Did dad come to town to give her the money to run with? Heck, maybe he handed it over to her in good faith after any blow ups they may have had concerning the wreck. Was it him traveling in tandom with Maura, the londonderry ping being made as a last ditched attempt to locate her on her Cell phone that Sharon was billed for? Did she have two phones and that's why she seemed to leave the "primary" phone, fairly often at various places?
I think you could have a good point here, Hannah too, that Maura was likely to MEET UP WITH her dad at 8? He could have driven through the night to get to his CT job. And all through the day thinking if he should even try and call her cellphone. Sharon said they left messages on her phone just in case she were to check her cellphone for messages, even though she was missing. They all pleaded Maura come home, nothing is so bad, we just want you back...curious is police thought Maura was heading to Ohio. On Renners blog they were trying to connect a body found to the case at hand. I wonder if they did. They argued in court that for primary suspect to know where Maura was last at would jeprodize the case, give the perp a heads up.

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On April 13, 2007, Sgt. Todd Landry and Assistant AG Jeff Strelzin appeared in Grafton County Superior Court to answer questions about why the investigatory file on Maura Murray should not be released. Assistant AG Nancy Smith represented the state's interest. Timothy Ervin represented Fred Murray. Here are some highlights:

Ms. Smith: What is the most recent activity? How recently has activity occurred in that matter?

Sgt. Landry: Just two -- three days ago, I was in contact with the law enforcement out in Ohio in regards to some human remains that had been found and they wanted to obtain dental records that we had in this case.

Ms. Smith: Do you have opinion as to whether this case is more likely than not to result in criminal charges?

Sgt. Landry: This may lead to criminal charges. My experience says it could go either way.

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Ms. Smith:...revealing the material that's been withheld might enable a person of interest to use what other witnesses have said to cover their tracks or to divert attention or muddy the waters. Is that something that you have had happen to you in other cases that you are investigating?

Sgt. Landry: Yes.

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_ar...

This page has another article on it that speaks volumes toward Fred being left out. Then for some reason Fred decides he doesn't want something made public after all.

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Apr 15, 2012
 
Off to get my beauty rest. See you on the parquet soon I hope. Really, don't worry about your tux, Jenkins. I'm dry as a bone.

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Just me--paris wrote:
<quoted text> On Renners blog they were trying to connect a body found to the case at hand. I wonder if they did. They argued in court that for primary suspect to know where Maura was last at would jeprodize the case, give the perp a heads up.
Linda, I was curious about that also. Looked it up, and the Ohio remains were ruled out as being Maura.
https://identifyus.org/cases/4725...

You have to click "Show All Exclusions" to see the whole list, but Maura is ruled out.
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Thanks for posting those Paris, they're very interesting.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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I gotta ask. What is a sudo ingineer? And why don't you think I have $4000? Your posts are pretty illegible. You need to calm down. Maybe less caffeine. I think you are rushing the creative process and that is causing you to write posts that appear irrational.
Bill
I can't read those long posts because they make me dizzy so I went to sleep. Did someone say Sumo Fighter? Or Sudo Ingineer? Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.

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Jenkins4Real wrote:
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wtf? u talk trash on me but u go fishin w ur dog, gun, coffee in ur pjs. its def highly suspicus u do that n think its funny when we're all here trying to find a missing girl. I find it very odd that u dont take ur cell phone fishin. whats up w that? if ur dog goes bustin thru the flat surface of that water u think itz not ur prob but what if it was a scube diver coming up 2 ask permission to serch ur lake? ur dog cant no if itz a boy scout or el qaida attack.
WHAT??????? Are we supposed to stop living because you can't find a missing girl? I mean woman. My private property is private. I feel really badly for Looking For A Moose and her dog. If that happened to me I'd want to sue the trespassers.

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Jenkins wrote:
Lol, Jenkins4reak is obviously not me
I think we have Sybil here.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Huh! I have no idea what in the heck you are talking about. I doubt you know either by the sound of your post. Maybe you should wait till tomorrow to post further when you're ,um, thinking straighter.
I don't believe in walking on egg shell around here like everyone else. Looks like there are some anger issues and substance abuse around here. I'm telling it like I see it.

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Shack wrote:
The disappearance of Maura Missing was covered quite well and regulary by the Caledonian Record....but, not by the local newspaper Journal Opinion.
Is this a clue?

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FrmLE wrote:
Anything is possible, of course. That does not mean all possibilities are equally possible, note the difference.
No one knows what happened to Maura, however I do know a bit about people's actions and behavior. That does not mean everyone behaves the same way, however peoples behavior is very predictable given enough information.
I think that the possibility that Maura is still alive is almost zero, I would put it at less than .01%. That is my opinion, based on a career in LE and having some idea of how difficult it is, logistically, to disappear in the age we live in.
Combine that with human behavior, how incredibly unlikely it is that Maura would be alive now, all these years, knowing that her family is worried sick, looking for her, believing she may be dead, all these years, and given all that she remains hidden, living a new life, with a new name, new Social Security Number, in this day and age of information, it is nearly impossible.....
Think about it, just a but think how unlikely that is. In real life, not Lifetime Movie network, real life, think about that......
Less than .01%
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Snowy wrote:
for newbies....
there truly is a "gang", a gaggle, a sisterhood, a Pointy Boots Brigade....and there was a virtual bartender on topix.
this dude, i'm told, served "actual" drinks during a gathering / original search for MM in NH....and later, served "virtual" drinks online to the "gang" under a big top in a circus-like atmosphere associated with the original MMM forum.
the inner circle was, i'm told, privy to info about MM before her disappearance....and they've pretty much held tight to stuff until it's been revealed over the past year, and confirmed by Renner.
crazy, much??!
to me, the most important take-away is that the levity that took place inside the big top is contrasted with the scoldings we've all received on various forums about respecting the solemn nature of her disappearance.
in the past, MM has been held up as a deity....a young woman of beauty, brains and perfection by this group.
and, yet, they pointed their fingers with blame at any number of local NH residents.
some of us continue to be here to make sure a full-out e-lynching doesn't happen again.
it's become a no bullshit zone, at least on topix.
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Just checking in with the gang for an update.
Im still alive and doing ok. Please update me on anything new, if theres anything to report.
Bob
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Thanks Bob, this newbie has approx. 400 more pages to scroll thru but he could use a drink already. Its always Miller Time somewhere. Alcoholism = simplest explanation for this crowd or is this a team reverse-publicity effort to cover for somebody?

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>Sadly to say my personnal opinion is it is going to take along time until Mauras remains are found. I have heard of a possible suspect which has been on the top of my list. But as the years have gone by and interviewing people this person is at the bottom of my list. I could be wrong and this is only my personnal opinion.
This was posted Sep 30, 2011 by citigirl. Citigirl is Maura's cousin per a James Renner post dated Feb 7, 2012. The cousin is interviewing possible suspects. Am I getting this right?

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Thanks for your support.
I don't really think I have the time. I spend most of my time actually busy with other pursuits that make a bigger difference in the world, but it certainly crosses my mind at times. And if pushed hard enough it might happen. Dedicated to SBD, explaining the dangers of allowing people with room temperature IQ's to make wild, unsubstantiated accusations against innocent people in a public forum and the damage it can cause them. Also the legal options available against people who insist on doing such things. As it directly pertains to this case with the cast of characters. No real names, except Maura of course. But destruction of the persons pseudonym should be enough. I think we are close to that already. It seems to be enough that she is possibly trying to revamp her persona. Trying to make it appear that she might be relevant. Very, very few posts. None with the venom or sputtering sentence fragments of old. I seem to be having an effect. Its only taken these extreme measures. One can only wonder what would have happened if she took this posture six years ago, when this was first brought up about how she was poisoning the entire area and that she should stop trying to alienate everyone in the area of interest since we were looking for their cooperation.
Oh well, we may never know what we might have found out. All water under the bridge to her. Maura's family still lives with the effects of her campaign though.
In memory of SBD
Bill
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Snowy wrote:
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if you've been paying attention, overviews of the combined experiences of posters detail complaints about the history of the online endeavor to "Find Maura Murray" and its damage to local NH residents.
public support, compassion and sympathy for MM were freely given until some folks have felt duped by a poorly formed PR effort to elevate MM and crucify others in her name.
unfortunately, your inability to comprehend that moral failure and call it "hating" is off the mark.
the more Renner uncovers, the more we know this is true.
And there it is.

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Wowzer wrote:
<quoted text> If someone did know something which I'm not saying they do, do you really think they would blurt it out on a public forum?
If there's any chance of a closure I think it will come from hard work and investigation by LE. Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean that nothing is being done.
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