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Wowzer the real one wrote:
<quoted text>I guess I can't find where you responded a few days ago to the source of your tire statement so yes, please send the tire source info once more right here on this forum. Thanks. I'll be waiting.
Same here. I don't remember any response to the questions asked either.

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RozShoem wrote:
<quoted text>I know you read a lot, that's not the problem. You like those simple sentences though as they make it easier dredging for potential "facts." You should read, The Story of Edgar Sawtelle. Really. It's a lovely story.
Sorry, I'm not one for much fiction. I use to be years ago, mostly science fiction though. The last fiction that I read was a good read called the "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. You may have heard of it. Great literature. That was in High School some time ago. I heard they made it into a few movies. 8-)

Anyways, "The Story of Edgar Sawtelle" is rated as 3.1 on Amazon. Not too impressive, not that, that is the final arbiter but I doubt I'll be reading it anytime soon. I stick to mostly science and engineering journals, documentaries etc.

I do recognize fiction when it shows up on these forums. I try to use the things I have learned to keep things straight as do some others, Wowzer, Snowy, and a few others.

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Snowy wrote:
what is wrong with you? why do you blabber, prattle, jabber, chatter, blather, yabber, yammer? DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. Please, don't.
You're not qualified to even guess. LOL. You sound young and female. Go find your Barbie....
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Dec 27, 2010
 
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Sorry, I'm not one for much fiction. I use to be years ago, mostly science fiction though. The last fiction that I read was a good read called the "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. You may have heard of it. Great literature. That was in High School some time ago. I heard they made it into a few movies. 8-)
Anyways, "The Story of Edgar Sawtelle" is rated as 3.1 on Amazon. Not too impressive, not that, that is the final arbiter but I doubt I'll be reading it anytime soon. I stick to mostly science and engineering journals, documentaries etc.
I do recognize fiction when it shows up on these forums. I try to use the things I have learned to keep things straight as do some others, Wowzer, Snowy, and a few others.
Bill
Bill,
Do you know what year Maura took a trip to Boston without telling family and friends? Also, do you recall the year she and family vacationed at at Bartlett? Thanks.

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Bill,
Do you know what year Maura took a trip to Boston without telling family and friends? Also, do you recall the year she and family vacationed at at Bartlett? Thanks.
I don't know the answers off the top of my head but, on the MM site might have that information. I remember pictures of her trip with her dad. The Boston trip she is supposed to have taken I don't remember either. Neither seem to me to have any real importance in this case.

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Based on what I've read, an officer(?) responded to the first car off the road situation and upon arrival saw a female drive off. Then the officer responds to another report (2nd) of a car off the highway. If it was a police officer who responded to the first scene and identified the driver to be a female, wouldn't he have noticed something about the car as well? Close enough to determine the driver was a female and yet not close enough to recall anything about the car? If Maura had been involved in both incidents within minutes...it would seem as though an officer would have recognized that it was the same car (dark colored Saturn). Also, as she left the scene it would have seemed reasonable to pull her over to determine if she'd been drinking (dui, dwi)? Possibly a breathalyzer could have been administered. If the woman was driving off....and he did not stop her because he was being dispatched to the 2nd accident...it would seem that if Maura was involved in both incidents she would have had to been in two places at once (driving away from the first incident and involved in the second one simultaneously). Possibly it was a very busy evening. Did the officer ever mention it may have been the same car at both scenes?
there is no factual or new information contained in this essay. there is no logical thought progression. try to work on some bullet points and organizing your "thoughts" before putting them to writing and subjecting others to non-sense.
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RozShoem wrote:
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Bill,
Do you know what year Maura took a trip to Boston without telling family and friends? Also, do you recall the year she and family vacationed at at Bartlett? Thanks.
the short answer is that boston is a common and accessible destination for college students. unless MM was in the habit of telling family and friends her whereabouts (and that hasn't been confirmed from any reliable source), then it's not unusual to have visited boston.
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the short answer is that boston is a common and accessible destination for college students. unless MM was in the habit of telling family and friends her whereabouts (and that hasn't been confirmed from any reliable source), then it's not unusual to have visited boston.
Someone had written that initially(?) Maura's disappearance was not too much of a surprise because there had been a time in the past when she'd taken a trip to Boston without telling anyone. If I recall, it was more than a day trip.
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Snowy wrote:
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there is no factual or new information contained in this essay. there is no logical thought progression. try to work on some bullet points and organizing your "thoughts" before putting them to writing and subjecting others to non-sense.


You couldn't detect logic if you tripped over it. I wondered where you were for a couple of days. Thought maybe you were busily opening your Christmas presents or something. Your negativity, irregularity or whatever you "suffer" from was not missed. Everyone needs to be somewhere, however.
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WTF-the-original wrote:
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I don't know the answers off the top of my head but, on the MM site might have that information. I remember pictures of her trip with her dad. The Boston trip she is supposed to have taken I don't remember either. Neither seem to me to have any real importance in this case.
Bill
I had read something that she had written and the answers to the above may be important. Like you say, they may not be important, but still I plan to check out the MM site as you suggest. Thanks.
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just me wrote:
<quoted text>The people who do this on the forum are the ones who believe there was a first accident, that the car didn't get damaged right there. They seem to want to imply boogie men for the most part. Agreed?
There WERE two incidents. Because the first driver had not been stopped and interviewed there is not much information...other than mention that a female was driving away from the scene. The driver of the second accident scene was not interviewed as she was no longer around when the police officer had arrived.
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WTF-the-original wrote:
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I don't know the answers off the top of my head but, on the MM site might have that information. I remember pictures of her trip with her dad. The Boston trip she is supposed to have taken I don't remember either. Neither seem to me to have any real importance in this case.
Bill
Bill,
Possibly the flat tire thing was kept quiet to avoid mass public chaos should people come to believe someone was out there disabling vehicles and abducting drivers. A few weeks ago I looked at a few pictures of Maura's car....attempting to see if it would be possible to see if one of the tires were flat. Interestingly, the photos (at least the ones I found) do not show the tires. Front fender photos, etc...but no tire/wheel photos. If you know of any, please let me know that site where they appear. Thanks.

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RozShoem wrote:
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Bill,
Possibly the flat tire thing was kept quiet to avoid mass public chaos should people come to believe someone was out there disabling vehicles and abducting drivers. A few weeks ago I looked at a few pictures of Maura's car....attempting to see if it would be possible to see if one of the tires were flat. Interestingly, the photos (at least the ones I found) do not show the tires. Front fender photos, etc...but no tire/wheel photos. If you know of any, please let me know that site where they appear. Thanks.
You've avoided the question of who or what your source is concerning the flat tire. Could you please answer how you know she had a flat when as far as I know, no one else in over 6 years has heard this info.
You evidently have never been to this area. To think someone would be lurking around in February trying to disable vehicles and abduct drivers is ridiculous.
You now want to see pictures of the car to see if one of the tires were flat? I thought you KNEW she had a flat tire.

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RozShoem wrote:
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There WERE two incidents. Because the first driver had not been stopped and interviewed there is not much information...other than mention that a female was driving away from the scene. The driver of the second accident scene was not interviewed as she was no longer around when the police officer had arrived.
You're again stating something as a fact when there is no proof that it's true. How do you KNOW there were two incidents?
Where did you hear that another female was driving away from another scene?

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RozShoem wrote:
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You couldn't detect logic if you tripped over it. I wondered where you were for a couple of days. Thought maybe you were busily opening your Christmas presents or something. Your negativity, irregularity or whatever you "suffer" from was not missed. Everyone needs to be somewhere, however.
Now this is downright funny. I don't think I've read one logical thing that you've written here so far and you're telling others they can't detect logic.
I'm still trying to figure YOUR need to be here because it seems your mission is to confuse and NOT help.
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RozShoem wrote:
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Someone had written that initially(?) Maura's disappearance was not too much of a surprise because there had been a time in the past when she'd taken a trip to Boston without telling anyone. If I recall, it was more than a day trip.
her trip (presumed to be a day trip) has previously been discussed; and without the benefit of any additional, enlightening details, no conclusions were taken away from its mention.
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RozShoem wrote:
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You couldn't detect logic if you tripped over it. I wondered where you were for a couple of days. Thought maybe you were busily opening your Christmas presents or something. Your negativity, irregularity or whatever you "suffer" from was not missed. Everyone needs to be somewhere, however.
i've suffered through multiple attempts to read your speculative essays, and have then afforded you the courtesy of concise responses. my gift to you.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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You're again stating something as a fact when there is no proof that it's true. How do you KNOW there were two incidents?
Where did you hear that another female was driving away from another scene?
i'll await the answers to your questions, Wowzer.
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As I recall, the flat tire was first mentioned by Det Columbo claiming to have seen the Saturn at the impound lot in such a condition. It was never established at what point the flat occurred, if in the accident, during tow or later.
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Dec 30, 2010
 
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As I recall, the flat tire was first mentioned by Det Columbo claiming to have seen the Saturn at the impound lot in such a condition. It was never established at what point the flat occurred, if in the accident, during tow or later.
i share your recollection. and, yes, the claim was never established as fact.

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