Maura Murray

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>You must have your favorite things to do or you that have done.Is there something wrong with wanting to do something in life that you enjoy? Should we not do anything we enjoy because there is the possibility we could one day disappear and others will look at this as suspicious?

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>You must have your favorite things to do or you that have done.Is there something wrong with wanting to do something in life that you enjoy? Should we not do anything we enjoy because there is the possibility we could one day disappear and others will look at this as suspicious?

When you put it that way, my answer is no. I don't think it's odd because she wanted to do it and wrote that in emails to friends. Rather that she may have been trying to go get tickets and that might place her somewhere we haven't thought about. Show time was a Friday night and I would think do-able for all the gang to get there. I just look for little clues, and the email was kept hush hush after all. Thanks for allowing me to express my points of view, and/or to clarify what I've said.
When Maura went to Boston for the day, maybe she came back with something nifty for her group. On then other hand, maybe she was secretly meeting someone there for the day. OR: just plain adventerous Maura wanting to go explore the big bad world for herself with one of her very rare free days.

Jenkins wrote:

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This is obviously beagle again.
Beagle is clearly just not a good person. Anyone who comes online and makes fun of the fact that a girl is missing and her family is looking for her needs to seriously re-evaluate their life.
He also needs to seriously reevaluate what he finds funny because his posts are not funny in the slightest bit, not even close.
they're actually pretty sad because they're written by someone who's clearly demented and in need of some serious help psychologically.
Just like the vids he released on YouTube under 112dirtbag. That's some seriously demented and mean shit in those videos.
Then he has the nerve to complain when someone talks shit about him??
What is wrong with this guy?

Doeson't matter who it is. It iznt Beagle. How many pages of comments r u supposed to make b4 some1 else can comment 2? I am SRSLY me and UR SRSLY U. I think she went in2 the woodz. UR clearly clueless and not even funny. What is wrong with u?

Jenkins wrote:

Lighthouse shouldn't feel bad that his team lost, the she's lost in the woods theory has absolutely zero evidence to back it up. It is fundamentally flawed in logic and would not win a debate in any sort of neutral forum.
That would not be the side of the argument you would want if you were on a debate team
I don't see how anybody can realistically look at this case with an open mind an decide that she got lost in the woods. It is the only theory that has absolutely no circumstantial evidence, none.
If you take everything we know it def appears foul play was Involved.
If you consider what the authorities have had to say about the case I really done see how anyone can think she's lost in the woods. Everything they said in court was under oath, so either they rwally believe she was killed, or they perjured themselves. They said 75% chances of charges being brought, that is a pretty strong statement, they must have something to back that up.

Jenkins, I've watched the court hearings a few times from start to finish, and nothing was said that foul play was involved in the Murray case. They only said that LE was treating the case as a criminal investigation because there was a POSSIBILITY that foul play was involved. Also, the assistant AG who spoke in court was speaking on someone else's behalf (who couldn't be present on that particular day), and she really didn't seem to know much about the case.

TeeJay wrote:

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Jenkins, I've watched the court hearings a few times from start to finish, and nothing was said that foul play was involved in the Murray case. They only said that LE was treating the case as a criminal investigation because there was a POSSIBILITY that foul play was involved. Also, the assistant AG who spoke in court was speaking on someone else's behalf (who couldn't be present on that particular day), and she really didn't seem to know much about the case.

Jenkins is an annoying diva.

SRSLYWTH wrote:

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Doeson't matter who it is. It iznt Beagle. How many pages of comments r u supposed to make b4 some1 else can comment 2? I am SRSLY me and UR SRSLY U. I think she went in2 the woodz. UR clearly clueless and not even funny. What is wrong with u?

Are we placing bets? I'll take "FrmLE/Bill posting from his time machine on his way to one of his three our four houses."

I hate when I miss happy hour around here. Where's that bartender?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I don't know about Mass but it should be easy for someone, not me, to find out. But, in CT all L.E. at the state colleges are manned by CT State police. They are by no means security guards.
Bill

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but in case anyone is feeling ambitious enough to pick up a phone:
http://www.umass.edu/umpd/contact/

Bill I've read you posts, you've never presented a shred of evidence that she actually went into the woods.
You've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that if she did go in the woods she might never be found, but that does not mean she actually went into the woods. Just because it's difficult to find someone in the wilderness does not mean she's there.
What are you basing your theory on?
What evidence is there indicating that she might have actually entered the woods? Do you actually have any evidence supporting your theory or what? In all the posts by you and frmLE I've never seen either of you actually present any evidence supporting the theory that she went into the woods.

As I've heard you say: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Well in this case it would be very extraordinary for someone to enter those woods ,in the middle of the night, in February in new Hampshire. Why would she do that? And if she did do that How could she possibly have gotten deep enough into the woods to not be found?
Like I've also heard you say, the simplest answer is generally the correct answer, well wouldn't the simplest explanation be that she caught a ride? She was a beautiful young girl, pretty much any driver on the road would be willing to give her a ride, this doesn't mean that this person killed her but that is clearly the most simple explanation for how she left the scene. We know cars drove past her, I'm sure any of them would have happy to give her a ride. Nobody likes to drive past a young girl that's stranded in the winter in Nh.
To say that she ran 10 miles up the road & then walked miles into the woods wearing jeans, no boots gloves or hat is just unbelievable, it makes no logical sense, it is not the simplest answer to this by any stretch of the imagination.
Clearly the simplest explanation is that she caight a ride after the crash, is it not?

Also I got a general q about sar for you bill: what do you think the average success rate of sar operations is? About what percentage of times does a sar operation happen and they don't find the person? I've been looking but I can't really find a real #.
I know that most sar operations that I've heard about are successful, whether the person is alive or dead they still usually do find the subject of the search from what I've seen. Obviously there are times they don't find anything but it appears most searches are successful, am I wrong about that?
Do they usually not find anybody or anything?
In your 25yrs of sar experience do you usually find nothing?

Jenkins wrote:

She was a beautiful young girl, pretty much any driver on the road would be willing to give her a ride, this doesn't mean that this person killed her but that is clearly the most simple explanation for how she left the scene. We know cars drove past her, I'm sure any of them would have happy to give her a ride. Nobody likes to drive past a young girl that's stranded in the winter in Nh.

Ugli ppl dont dsrv ridz.

Only beautiful ppl.

SRSLYWTH wrote:

Only beautiful ppl.

Listen sonny boy , I have been quiet on this forum and trying to learn from others and you my dear need to consult your Physician or counselor for help. This game of yours is not what the forum is here for.

I came here to chit chat and all I hear is arguing and talk that has nothing to do with the missing girl. There are a few good folks here with nice things to say but SRSLYWTH what is wrong with you boy.

love GrannyM

SRSLYWTH wrote:

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Ugli ppl dont dsrv ridz.

Never will understand why ugly people feel the need to hurt through their postings about the seriousness of a missing child. If only they could feel,for only a day or week, the heart pounding anxiety and fear of not knowing what happened.

I have contacted Topix to see if they can put a halt to your behavior. You are interrupting conversation about a missing girl. I hope you don't have kids or grand-kids MR as you are no role model.

Shack wrote:

<quoted text>Never will understand why ugly people feel the need to hurt through their postings about the seriousness of a missing child. If only they could feel,for only a day or week, the heart pounding anxiety and fear of not knowing what happened.

I agree with you so much shack . I am a loving person and care about others that it really bothers me how people can act and be so mean to others. I fortunately have not experianced my kids nor grandkids being missing- can't go there- I would not want to be on this earth and i hate to say it.

Before I go to bed I just want to say that I hope Maura's family and friends have closure in tho near future.I hope we can all get along and have good conversation and offer hope to the family.I won't post very often as I am still learning.

love GrannyM

I can't sleep and I need to get out how I feel! hope its ok?

I feel Maura had allot on her mind that was probably more than she could handle. Maura was dealing with being kicked out of west point for whatever reasons and then going into a nursing program. Mauras mother was a nurse so my view is that she went to nursing school to make her mother feel proud. Maura was UN happy in nursing as that was to much pressure and was not her real choice. Maura was now feeling that she was failing her mother and her father and was on the verge of being kicked out of college for CC fraud- another mistake and she was gone. The Hadley crash then came and she went into deep depression and panic and she had to get away. She fled to NH and came to a curve she wasn't familiar with. She had been drinking and got anxious that she was in more trouble. Maura denied help from SBD because she didn't want the police to get involved. maura started walking and was possibly sweet talked into a vehicle by someone younger than and less intimidating than SBD. something bad hapenned afterwards.

A GrannyM opinion from reading and studying.

Love GrannyM

Was the area where the duct tape,hair&clothing ever searched?This seems further than any searches I've heard of.Also,could this be evidence of "Mauras Last known location" as mentioned in court proceedings..only the poster Matthew,LE&the perp would know the exact location of these items.Maybe the investigators are being tightlipped about these items&test results for conviction later?

Thank you for the bed time storys everybody. Golly y'all aren't too friendly or funny. Lighten up. Goodnight Moon.

findmaura wrote:

Was the area where the duct tape,hair&clothing ever searched?This seems further than any searches I've heard of.Also,could this be evidence of "Mauras Last known location" as mentioned in court proceedings..only the poster Matthew,LE&the perp would know the exact location of these items.Maybe the investigators are being tightlipped about these items&test results for conviction later?

I've wondered that too. If not Maura, maybe related to another case? I looked through old articles but didn't see any updates about it.

findmaura wrote:

Was the area where the duct tape,hair&clothing ever searched?This seems further than any searches I've heard of.Also,could this be evidence of "Mauras Last known location" as mentioned in court proceedings..only the poster Matthew,LE&the perp would know the exact location of these items.Maybe the investigators are being tightlipped about these items&test results for conviction later?

yes, based on MCSMOM postings it was looked into http://www.topix.com/forum/city/franconia-nh/...