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SRSLY. S^it hapnz.
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<quoted text>Websleuths (Maura Murray) "banned" certain Posters because of their snarkiness (sp?) whatever, surly and lack of manners. The beat goes on here.
Most of us just want the truth as what happened to Maura.
Shark tank. Swim away. She bites.

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Lighthouse 101 says he/she is of the same demographic as Maura and I believe his assertion was that neither he nor any of his ilk could possibly be inveigled into accepting a ride from anyone offering kindly help even if they were a stranded, under-dressed motorist on a country highway in Northern New England in February.

Did I get that right?

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no abduction never happens silly frosty
By Ciara O'Rourke | Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:04 AM
Update: Hays County authorities are still searching for a man officials say sexually assaulted a 17-year-old before trying to kill her last week.
The man lured the girl into his car, described as a white SUV, at an Austin Capital Metro bus stop the morning of March 15 and drove her to an isolated area in Dripping Springs where he sexually assaulted her, Sgt. Jeri Skrocki said.
Skrocki said investigators believe the man realized the girl might be able to identify him and so stabbed her repeatedly, leaving her for dead. Stripped of her clothing, the girl stumbled toward the sound of traffic and tried to flag down help.
A passing driving saw her and called the sheriff’s office, Skrocki said.
“This woman had been brutalized,” Skrocki said.
This man was looking to lure someone in at a bus stop. Not some back road in a rural town.

JWB and Frostman I don't doubt you two are good people. Any and everyone on this site probably is. At some point you develop and emotional attachment to the case and to the victim. At some point you want a specific theory to play out because it feels better and gives a more emotional soothing. There is nothing wrong with caring.
I went to school with someone, who broke up with her BF, and threw herself infront of a train out of grief. Everyone knew she was sad. Her parents to this day would rather cope with it by saying she was pushed or thrown onto the tracks at the exact time the train was coming. When the conductor told the family and LE that he saw her alone on the tracks and he was blowing his horn and she wouldn't move, the family then said someone forced her there and was threatening her if she moved.
At some point in an unsolved case you sometimes develop a coping mechanism in the form of a solution. The strongest case for foul play would probably be a family member or close friend. That is dismissed by a lot of you, not because you actually know anyones alibi's. Its because you believe it not to be the case an emotional thought. I don't think foul play happened but the oppossing group did make a compelling case if foul play was there it probably was someone she knew and was very close to her. No need for "luring" she would jump right into the car. We say "red truck" because it gives us the emotional coping mechanism. If someone from a major car rental company shows you a rental slip for a red truck leased as an insurance replacement for a totaled toyota carolla would you still be paying attention to the red truck or would it become a red herring? Again you care and God bless you for doing so. No one wants to believe that they invested so much emotion and time into a flee the car and die in the woods. For the time and emotion we spent on this we need a much bigger and grander finale.
Please don't take this as I am trying to put you down. I'm not in anyway shape or form trying to do so.

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Frostman wrote:
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Lighthouse 101 says he/she is of the same demographic as Maura and I believe his assertion was that neither he nor any of his ilk could possibly be inveigled into accepting a ride from anyone offering kindly help even if they were a stranded, under-dressed motorist on a country highway in Northern New England in February.
Did I get that right?
U R a good spitter.
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This man was looking to lure someone in at a bus stop. Not some back road in a rural town.
JWB and Frostman I don't doubt you two are good people. Any and everyone on this site probably is. At some point you develop and emotional attachment to the case and to the victim. At some point you want a specific theory to play out because it feels better and gives a more emotional soothing. There is nothing wrong with caring.
I went to school with someone, who broke up with her BF, and threw herself infront of a train out of grief. Everyone knew she was sad. Her parents to this day would rather cope with it by saying she was pushed or thrown onto the tracks at the exact time the train was coming. When the conductor told the family and LE that he saw her alone on the tracks and he was blowing his horn and she wouldn't move, the family then said someone forced her there and was threatening her if she moved.
At some point in an unsolved case you sometimes develop a coping mechanism in the form of a solution. The strongest case for foul play would probably be a family member or close friend. That is dismissed by a lot of you, not because you actually know anyones alibi's. Its because you believe it not to be the case an emotional thought. I don't think foul play happened but the oppossing group did make a compelling case if foul play was there it probably was someone she knew and was very close to her. No need for "luring" she would jump right into the car. We say "red truck" because it gives us the emotional coping mechanism. If someone from a major car rental company shows you a rental slip for a red truck leased as an insurance replacement for a totaled toyota carolla would you still be paying attention to the red truck or would it become a red herring? Again you care and God bless you for doing so. No one wants to believe that they invested so much emotion and time into a flee the car and die in the woods. For the time and emotion we spent on this we need a much bigger and grander finale.
Please don't take this as I am trying to put you down. I'm not in anyway shape or form trying to do so.
On July 10, 1985, 27-year old single mother Eva Morse (b. May 6, 1958) was seen hitchhiking near the border of Claremont and Charlestown, New Hampshire, on Route 12. This is the last time anyone would see Morse alive, and she too was reported missing.
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"The only time I have seen luring work successfully was in 1984. Reses piesces were used and ET couldn't resist the sugary and peanut butter taste."

really? luring and or abductions don't happen? All you have to do is read up on the Conn river valley murders. How about Pamela Web?

I am open to all theories and ideas but to say that luring/abductions don't take place is just not the case.

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JWB wrote:
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On July 10, 1985, 27-year old single mother Eva Morse (b. May 6, 1958) was seen hitchhiking near the border of Claremont and Charlestown, New Hampshire, on Route 12. This is the last time anyone would see Morse alive, and she too was reported missing.
SRSLY. Don't hitchhike. Don't drink and drive if u like birthdaz.

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<quoted text>This man was looking to lure someone in at a bus stop. Not some back road in a rural town. JWB and Frostman I don't doubt you two are good people. Any and everyone on this site probably is. At some point you develop and emotional attachment to the case and to the victim. At some point you want a specific theory to play out because it feels better and gives a more emotional soothing. There is nothing wrong with caring.
I went to school with someone, who broke up with her BF, and threw herself infront of a train out of grief. Everyone knew she was sad. Her parents to this day would rather cope with it by saying she was pushed or thrown onto the tracks at the exact time the train was coming. When the conductor told the family and LE that he saw her alone on the tracks and he was blowing his horn and she wouldn't move, the family then said someone forced her there and was threatening her if she moved. At some point in an unsolved case you sometimes develop a coping mechanism in the form of a solution. The strongest case for foul play would probably be a family member or close friend. That is dismissed by a lot of you, not because you actually know anyones alibi's. Its because you believe it not to be the case an emotional thought. I don't think foul play happened but the oppossing group did make a compelling case if foul play was there it probably was someone she knew and was very close to her. No need for "luring" she would jump right into the car. We say "red truck" because it gives us the emotional coping mechanism. If someone from a major car rental company shows you a rental slip for a red truck leased as an insurance replacement for a totaled toyota carolla would you still be paying attention to the red truck or would it become a red herring? Again you care and God bless you for doing so. No one wants to believe that they invested so much emotion and time into a flee the car and die in the woods. For the time and emotion we spent on this we need a much bigger and grander finale. Please don't take this as I am trying to put you down. I'm not in anyway shape or form trying to do so.
With all respect that is due to another poster, I think you have misinterpreted my written opinions on this forum (which I've based on the known facts in this tragic disappearance) with some misbegotten notion of yours that I am emotionally steeped in the outcome being one of foul play. Not so, I came with an open mind.

If you have credible information to offer in support of your theorem(s) then please feel free to post them. I think it is senseless, however, for you to continuously and obliquely patronize other posters and me because we don't agree with your position as debated in a school project.
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Nice to see you back. The main problem that I've thought of regarding this theory is that if she was avoiding oncoming cars for fear of the police, or even to not get hit by an oncoming car, she likely would have had to step off into the snow. Probably leaving footprints. How often does a car pass by this road? Even if it's only 5 or 10 per hour, that's still 5 or 10 times she would have had to duck into the woods or down a side street or into the snow. A local driving by would likely notice this suspicious behavior and possibly report it, as the CW was said to do. I don't know if his sighting was credible, but that's another story.
The area is very desolate, especially to the East. How many cars would she have to dodge? Maybe just a few.

How hard would it be? Well try this, go to the most desolate stretch of road you can find, with woods and tress on both sides, at night when it is dark, and see how far away you can spot cars coming by their headlights. How much time would you have to get off the road? Plenty of time, but hey don't take my word for it, try it yourself.

As far as the idea that every inch of that road was searched for footprints, well let's just say that never happened. The ONLY area that was searched in a manner that would identify footprints leading into the woods was the area IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE CRASH SITE.

So, to put it another way, all you people who believe that she couldn't have gone into the woods (bobby boy) because there were no footprints, you are dillusional. She could have gone into the woods anywhere along the roadway away from the crash site.

Not to mention that she could have simply walked into someones driveway, where footprints would not been seen, and walked into the woods somewhere along the driveway.

Ridiculous, how you people think and form opinions with absolutely no knowledge of the area or what was searched.

Let me clarify for all you boobies and bobby's.

The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.

The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.

The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.

The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.

All this talk about FLIR and fox tracks is absurd, because FLIR only detects heat signature, not footprints in the snow left days before.

WTF is wrong with some of you.

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The area is very desolate, especially to the East. How many cars would she have to dodge? Maybe just a few.
How hard would it be? Well try this, go to the most desolate stretch of road you can find, with woods and tress on both sides, at night when it is dark, and see how far away you can spot cars coming by their headlights. How much time would you have to get off the road? Plenty of time, but hey don't take my word for it, try it yourself.
As far as the idea that every inch of that road was searched for footprints, well let's just say that never happened. The ONLY area that was searched in a manner that would identify footprints leading into the woods was the area IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE CRASH SITE.
So, to put it another way, all you people who believe that she couldn't have gone into the woods (bobby boy) because there were no footprints, you are dillusional. She could have gone into the woods anywhere along the roadway away from the crash site.
Not to mention that she could have simply walked into someones driveway, where footprints would not been seen, and walked into the woods somewhere along the driveway.
Ridiculous, how you people think and form opinions with absolutely no knowledge of the area or what was searched.
Let me clarify for all you boobies and bobby's.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
All this talk about FLIR and fox tracks is absurd, because FLIR only detects heat signature, not footprints in the snow left days before.
WTF is wrong with some of you.
I hope you don't think I'm Bob Jenkins. Haha.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Bonus points for making me laugh.
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Reality wrote:
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The area is very desolate, especially to the East. How many cars would she have to dodge? Maybe just a few.
How hard would it be? Well try this, go to the most desolate stretch of road you can find, with woods and tress on both sides, at night when it is dark, and see how far away you can spot cars coming by their headlights. How much time would you have to get off the road? Plenty of time, but hey don't take my word for it, try it yourself.
As far as the idea that every inch of that road was searched for footprints, well let's just say that never happened. The ONLY area that was searched in a manner that would identify footprints leading into the woods was the area IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE CRASH SITE.
So, to put it another way, all you people who believe that she couldn't have gone into the woods (bobby boy) because there were no footprints, you are dillusional. She could have gone into the woods anywhere along the roadway away from the crash site.
Not to mention that she could have simply walked into someones driveway, where footprints would not been seen, and walked into the woods somewhere along the driveway.
Ridiculous, how you people think and form opinions with absolutely no knowledge of the area or what was searched.
Let me clarify for all you boobies and bobby's.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
The only area that was searched for footprints leading into the woods was the area around the crash site.
All this talk about FLIR and fox tracks is absurd, because FLIR only detects heat signature, not footprints in the snow left days before.
WTF is wrong with some of you.
I agree with some of your points you made but it is really not necessary to be nasty to Jenkins . Your post was a good one and would have held up better without the attacks on others.JMO

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Wow reality, you really can't understand how flir works?
It doesn't search for just body heat signatures.

It looked at heat, not light.

Footprints are not the same temp as surrounding snowpack. This is due to to increased contact with the air, it's not insulated from the tops of the snow, just like around the base of trees intenwinter. Ever notice how snow melts from around the base of trees?

Footprints are certainly warmer than the surrounding snowpack & can be seen on a flir device.
Scarinza specifically describes being able to see footprints and animal tracks through the flir, which he looked through all the way up to n Woodstock.

I'm from the area and have driven that stretch of 112 countless times.
So yes, they did check more than just the immediate surrounding area.

Funny how you choose to ignore any and all evidence that contradicts your preconceived notion that she's lost in the woods, pretty crappy way to be if you ask me.

Go read all the quotes from scarinza, then watch all his on camera interviews.

I'm nit sure what you motive is to just discount any evidence and cling to your theory that has zero evidence, but it's weird

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Flir is very simple advert sensitive.
It represents change in temperature as a change in light on the screen.
Footprints are most certainly visible as it would be a change in temp from the surrounding snow.

Why people choose to ignore this fact I'm not sure, but they are.

In an on camera interview scarinza describes flying in the helicopter all the way up to n Woodstock, which is 17 miles away.
He also described being sble to see footprints and animal tracks clear as day in the snow.

He also says he's "confident she isn't in the woods in the immediate area"

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Reality wrote:
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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! THATS EXACTY WHAT YOU DO EVERY TIME YOU POST!!
Whats the matter, you don't like the competition? Haahahha, priceless, just priceless..
Shut your trap
Frostman spits X the fence. He spits on r cntry n r ppl.
He shd STFenceU.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
Flir is very simple advert sensitive.
It represents change in temperature as a change in light on the screen.
Footprints are most certainly visible as it would be a change in temp from the surrounding snow.
Why people choose to ignore this fact I'm not sure, but they are.
In an on camera interview scarinza describes flying in the helicopter all the way up to n Woodstock, which is 17 miles away.
He also described being sble to see footprints and animal tracks clear as day in the snow.
He also says he's "confident she isn't in the woods in the immediate area"
Ahhhhhhh, I see little booby the embellisher is back.

Lets analyze a few of your little lies, shall we?

I see that you now have clarified that Scarinza said, "confident she isn't in the woods IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA"

Hmmmmm, interesting that before you said that Scrainza said he was "confident she was not in those woods..."

That little part where he says, "In the immediate area...", sure is different than what you want everyone to believe he said, isn't it?

Just a little lie here, a little embellishement there, thats the booby jenkins way. Lets move on though, shall we?

I see you are now resorting to using UNNAMED TV interviews and UN-LINKED news articles that we all are supposed to find huh? Scarinza said in some interview that he flew all the way to Woodstock.... Where is that TV interview? Or, are you just going from memory? Shall I just trust you bobby? lol

What about the direct link where the helicopter searched "20 miles in every direction?" Isn't that what you originally said? Searched 20 miles, thats what you said.

Yep, a little lie here, little embellishment there, thats the jenkins way....

How about the FLIR system you completely misunderstand? Lets discuss that for a second. How can a persons footprints still have a heat signature in the snow days later? Please, tell me this is possible?

The ground was frozen, there was snow on the ground. If a person or fox walks on the snow, there will be a heat signature that can be identified by a forward looking infrared camera. SImple right?

So, how can a persons heat stay in the foootprint days after? If you cook a pot of stew, and leave it outside in the snow for a few days, will it still be warm?

No, otherwise I wouldn't need to pay so damn much to heat my house in the winter, because heat disipates in the winter.

More simply put, the time between the helicopter search and the crash was significant enough that no heat signature would remain in the snow nor would it reflect a heat signature due to the difference in temp between the snow and frozen ground.

Please keep posting more lies and little exaggerations booby, I like this game! Its fun.

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<quoted text> BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! THATS EXACTY WHAT YOU DO EVERY TIME YOU POST!!Whats the matter, you don't like the competition? Haahahha, priceless, just priceless.. Shut your trap
What competition? I think Maura (may God bless her soul on her 30th birthday) was murdered. That's my opinion based on the known facts and available information. If you have any proof that she walked into the woods and succumbed to the elements, we're listening.

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What competition are you referring to? Please explain cuz I have no idea what your talking about

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What competition? I think Maura (may God bless her soul on her 30th birthday) was murdered. That's my opinion based on the known facts and available information. If you have any proof that she walked into the woods and succumbed to the elements, we're listening.
SRSLY. Just think about it. Shez hot!!! I bet she hoppd the brdr 2 Canada. She didnt need a passport. They say she has relatives there. This iz just what i heard. Anyone else hear this?

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Who had the lie detector tests? Iz the bf cleared? What about the othr bfz? What about the dad? I dont see nuthin in the news about this.
HAY!! Im drinkin marjaritas by teh pool. R U jealous?

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